Thanks for the detailed write up, I enjoyed the Stone Sigil praise and the idea of embracing weakening a lot.
Rat Monarch
Re: Rat Monarch
by dislekcia on Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:44 pm
Wow, congrats on the successful run! I honestly didn't expect anyone to get a Rat Monarch victory on VGT for a long while yet, well played
Thanks for the detailed write up, I enjoyed the Stone Sigil praise and the idea of embracing weakening a lot.
Thanks for the detailed write up, I enjoyed the Stone Sigil praise and the idea of embracing weakening a lot.
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Re: Rat Monarch
by ~'(^ + ^)'~ on Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:25 pm
Reading what you have written here, it all makes very good sense. Not 100% certain but I think that even the devs did not formulate a winning strategy for VGT when they came out with the Rat class. It would be possible but quite hard to pull off.
I did come out with a strategy on paper, but that's purely based on what little experience I have with, having only completed VGT 3 (?) times, all with Vampires.
But, still, would totally love to know what the devs have in mind - a good strat for winning VGT with the Rat.
If ever I manage to win with a different strat, I would definitely share my experience here.
I did come out with a strategy on paper, but that's purely based on what little experience I have with, having only completed VGT 3 (?) times, all with Vampires.
But, still, would totally love to know what the devs have in mind - a good strat for winning VGT with the Rat.
If ever I manage to win with a different strat, I would definitely share my experience here.
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Re: Rat Monarch
by Lujo on Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:57 pm
It's also remarkably simmilar to what turned out to be the Gorgon winning strategy back when "is VGT doable with a Gorgon" was a question of the day.
The "long while yet" part is intrigueing, though. What would time lapsing have anything to do with coming up with it?
The "long while yet" part is intrigueing, though. What would time lapsing have anything to do with coming up with it?
I almost got pwned by Shifty Brickwork!
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Re: Rat Monarch
by dislekcia on Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:07 am
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Re: Rat Monarch
by sitnaltax on Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:48 am
I started attempts on this today.
One thing I noticed is that if I prep:
* 4 potions
* the Bear Mace
* the Translocation Seal
* the Draining Blade
the Bear Mace always starts on the ground (inaccessible until way too late), rather than the Translocation Seal. I tried picking my preps in a different order, but always got this result. Did you do anything special to get the Seal to start on the ground?
(My temporary workaround is to only take 3 potions; the 10 CP is not a big deal, but having a slot tied up a little longer than I would like is inconvenient.)
One thing I noticed is that if I prep:
* 4 potions
* the Bear Mace
* the Translocation Seal
* the Draining Blade
the Bear Mace always starts on the ground (inaccessible until way too late), rather than the Translocation Seal. I tried picking my preps in a different order, but always got this result. Did you do anything special to get the Seal to start on the ground?
(My temporary workaround is to only take 3 potions; the 10 CP is not a big deal, but having a slot tied up a little longer than I would like is inconvenient.)
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Re: Rat Monarch
by CoolBoy on Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:53 am
Amazing work Tinker. Here I am, trying to figure out how to win vanilla gaan-telet with the Rat Monarch, and you go ahead and take on the impossible. No doubt I'll refer to your strategies after several dozen hours of failure attempts on my own.
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