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*SPOILERS* Dailies Thread

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Re: *SPOILERS* Dailies Thread

Postby Tinker on Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:32 pm

Well, in theory... Labyrinth is about half walls, so you can get about 5 * 200 = 1000 piety just by worshiping Binlor (assuming of course that you do not get any of his wall-spending boons, i.e. basically wasting all the piety except for the Stone Soup boon). For the monsters, Dracul can give up to 4 Piety per non-undead kill, and then 1-7 Piety per blood pool drank, depending on level of sanguine. Since there were only a couple of zombies today, that could mean another 120 piety from kills, maybe another 100-150 from Sangune (B2P lets you keep drinking), and then all those health potions are worth 5 piety apiece, plus the HALPMEH and CYDSTEPP each worth another 10 apiece. Another 100+ Piety. Plus 2 desecrations. So, in theory, getting 1400+ should have been feasible (potentially a bit more if things are juggled more optimally, i.e. more stacks of Sanguine, etc.).

PISORF - with Rock Heart - can cost as low as 3 mana per wall destroyed. But for 200 walls, that's still 600 mana, which assumes spending pretty much all blackspace - and probably a considerable also from the level-ups and B2P - on nothing but knocking monsters thru walls.

Now, in practice, the JJ prep assumes he started in JJ, which means some blackspace wasted for less efficient piety generation, and since we know where Binlor was, it could have been quite late to find him. Furthermore, not starting in Binlor means no PISORF, and ENDISWAL costs 5 mana even with the refund...

So I'd say... technically should possible, but still quite a feat, and probably would require luck and/or prior knowledge of the map? Especially in 19 1/2 mins.
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Re: *SPOILERS* Dailies Thread

Postby lordatog on Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:38 am

Welp. Clicked on a gorgon and got petrified while clearing popcorn. So it goes.
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Re: *SPOILERS* Dailies Thread

Postby Raz on Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:18 am

*Gnome Chemist in Western Jungle*

Barely squeaked out this one. About to give up and thought "maybe tiki can get me out of this - don't really need those health potions anyways..". Wasted the first quicksilver like an idiot, used consensus to get a 2nd, then didn't get 'DODGE' right off. Used 5 mana potions to cast heal so I could take a hit from a gob, then lucked out with 'DODGE'. Reflex potion hit, then 3 more mana potions for a first strike to finish him. 8 mana potions for 2 spells. Wow that was tight- don't care for Chemist much.
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Re: *SPOILERS* Dailies Thread

Postby smuglapse on Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:30 am

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Re: *SPOILERS* Dailies Thread

Postby lordatog on Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:45 am

Eh, no worries. I wasn't expecting to get any higher on the board than that, anyway. It's kind of liberating to start over. I don't think I'll be joining the purists, though.
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Re: *SPOILERS* Dailies Thread

Postby Yoshi on Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:37 am

Clicked myself to death like an idiot.
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Re: *SPOILERS* Dailies Thread

Postby Darvin on Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:14 am

Well, JJ spawns naturally near the entrance, so it wasn't too bad. Still converted to GG for protection in the end so my prep wasn't a complete waste.

I know all about misclick deaths. My sympathies to those whose streaks were broken.
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Re: *SPOILERS* Dailies Thread

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Re: *SPOILERS* Dailies Thread

Postby Tinker on Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:56 pm

Surprisingly tight run compared to the difficulty of the dungeon. I think the unhealthy interaction of Chemist requiring blackspace to function properly, and western jungle having 25% less accessible blackspace (with no glyph today to even tap into it), turned it into a challenge harder than it should've been.

I didn't mind the sub, though I admit that I didn't put it off until L10 to max XP gains from it, but rather did it around L7 or so, just for the money and the potions. I could go in fairly depleted, and regen a bit in the Arena before the next fight, so it did not take me any additional resources. +21 XP, +3 potions and +30 gold for practically nothing - what's not to like? ;) (especially since chemist's BYSSEPS works nicely together with knockback and Reflex)

Went mono-JJ, that prepped Collar seemed like a tourist trap when I saw what the other altars were, but I decided to stick to my plan, and just took the piety and CP. Alchemist Pact rounded up my XP for my boss-fight level-up, there's at least some use for those potions... :D

Fun fact of the day: when you teleport into the dodgeball arena for the first time, you get the regen bonus from the 9 tiles uncovered. Plus you need to uncover 3 more tiles to find the mob. So you can get close to a full-restore just from going in.
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