Extreme East Spoiler and Discussion Thread

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I found one of them in the first part and one in the second. I am still mad I didnt win there...

Also wouldnt the increased resists still matter when you just clear normally? I have to think about a good approach...

@Avatar Thats too bad Looking forward to new content then! And afterwards maybe Quest for Achievements? i wish I had more time to program it myself... Maybe in 35 years, when I retire

[shade_of_ox]

Yeah, I cleared No Handlebars with the Punchomancer strat I mentioned earlier. It didn't give me too much trouble. I prepped Dragon Soul instead of Crystal Ball, so I ended up buying a Crystal Ball from the shop. This cost me Miser so I had to get DING! Max! instead, but that wasn't too difficult.

The Punchomancer almost doesn't seem fair - it neuters pretty much any dungeon where the main difficulty is multiple bosses. I suppose that's the point of Protective Blessing, though - I'm assuming that all Vicious dungeons with 2 bosses have Protective Blessing on them to prevent this from working.

@Avatar - I think maybe the Really Big Sword and Dracul would be a good combo for Ultradoom?! as well, but I only considered that after having started the run (and realizing how screwed I would be with Dracul if Tower of Goo spawned). Overall I think GG is a more versatile god for Paladin than Dracul, which is very important in this dungeon because you have to deal with such a wide variety of bosses.

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[maya]

hearing all this discussion around no handlebars makes me feel underwhelmed when I say I just walked in with sorc of earthmother (I can't remember)but all I know is I did not get faithless) and got miser, ding, cheeky, feeling parched and specialist. I wasn't feeling disheartened about part 6 that was only the first real attempt I'm just saying that you won't learn anything from me, at least for a while because well this ain't my cup of tea being goblin and transmuter being concepts I never really grasped (and in the case of goblin never cared to try). I will preserve and see if I can make it to dungeon 3

@Avatar well if it even spawns at all as I remember a run I did where the secret sub didn't spawn at all. and you still have the chance at endiswall and pisorf. this was in the base game as well somehow so it's not an EE problem.

[shade_of_ox]

Cleared Oasis Town. To be honest, I found it a bit boring. The lore is pretty nice and I liked the theme of it, but gameplaywise it's too easy with a spiking class and far too difficult for a regen-fighter. It bothers me that so many glyphs are completely useless here (APHEELSIK, BLUDTOPOWA, LEMMISI) and so many gods aren't really worth using as they give piety for exploration. I can't see how it would be possible to clear this with a Rat Monarch, especially since the boss keeps reviving and refreshing his corrosion stacks. On the other hand, all the classes that Proselytizing asks you to clear it with have a very easy time.

All in all I'm not really a fan of this map, aside from the lore, which I actually quite like.\

EDIT: I found a bug with the Bag of Tricks. If you cast IMAWAL on an empty tile using it, you just get 2 mana restored for free.

@maya - Yeah, I don't doubt there are a number of approaches to take. I've always thought Sorcerer to be a pretty weak class, so I'm curious what strategy you used to pull that off, though.

Oh, I found a Soul Sphere in a subdungeon. This one actually looks pretty interesting - I can see it being a viable Vicious prep, since it's pretty much the Mage Plate with no downside.

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[maya]

speaking about the triple quest

@shade_of_ox I actually think that sorcerer is a really strong class and is my main go to class for anything really. unfortunately I can't remember all the details as I had done that run months ago now but I believe that I have an idea of how it happened and I do recall it coming down to the wire. i'm fairly certain I utilized earthmothers green blood to add corrosion stacks onto godusa so that the resists he was being given were sort of counter acted by the corrosion. lavavein was the target for a large fireball stack giving me specialist and i usually play around feeling parched anyway so it wasn't anything new to me. ding max and unstoppable go hand in hand usually and cheeky is just easy. also I have a feeling I prepped dragon soul aswell though crystal would have been better I think it was also human sorc who prepped attack boosters or fireball magnet. a fun idea on sorc is actually prepping earthmother and Avtar codex as earthmother can give you extra health and dr from vine form to utilize the power of the codex without immediately dying to most enemies and entanglement can remove retaliate fireball from anything while clearance gives you mana if you need it.

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[shade_of_ox]

Playing through Oasis Town a few more times, I will say that the boss is pretty cool. I like how he gains traits randomly, and in fact the gimmick is rather similar to Ultradoom?! Where you have to be prepared for a lot of different bosses.

@Avatar - did you catch my edit about the bug with Bag of Tricks? Or is that IMAWAL interaction intentional? It seems a bit weird to say the least. Also, what triple quest in the North? How do I access that?

@maya - Yeah, the Codex Sorcerer is about the only one I actually like. I believe that's one of the first combinations I beat Naga City with. Otherwise, even with the 5 mana, he's just not a strong enough caster late-game compared to a Wizard, say, or even an Assassin. His early game is very strong though.