Extreme East Spoiler and Discussion Thread

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Yeah, Oasis Town is a dungeon in the spirit of the central region that ended up in the North. So while the boss couldn't just literally be random, I wanted it to at least mimic that variability to some extent. As for the bag of tricks, this is very much intentional. The same can occur in base game with dragon soul, since basically how IMAWAL works on empty spaces is it deducts 5 and then refunds 2. So if you don't pay the 5, you just gain 2, which is static and thus can exceed your maximum mana. Also, when I say triple quest I meant 3-part quest line (namely Errand Boy). My bad for mixing my words up. You do have a triple quest too though, when you're feeling up to it.

[maya]

@avatar below is some more insight into the run and my thinking

@shade_of_oryx the main strong point for the sorc is his early game which can allow sorc to pull of some amazing high level kills or stroll through to fight the boss. yeah he's not as strong a pure caster as either wizard, bloodmage or assassin but makes great use by becoming a hybrid and utilizing the healing off spells because with 18 mana he can recover 36 extra health in battle spiking and with glyphs like apheelsick and halpmeh he becomes a great regen fighter aswell. also from what i hear a gnomish sorc of jj can gain some real mana off his potions but i never play around with jj so i don't know

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[maya]

a small note that this was still the second attempt and I had never seen part 3

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@maya - definitely take the time to unlock Cursed Cutlass. I've just unlocked it, and it's really such a strong item, especially on a regen fighter. In case you didn't know,


And I highly recommend at least doing some class challenges to unlock veto slots, if you haven't. Most of them aren't particularly difficult, and if you're really having trouble I think someone made a good walkthrough for them on the Steam forums as well. Veto slots are really very good only once you have a lot of them, because you can prep Quest Items and veto all of the quest items that don't help you (for instance, ban all low-CP spellcasting items for VGT). I would say don't veto Bloody Sigil, it's very cheap and gives a lot of CP for its value. I'd much rather ban something like Battlemage Ring which has very low CP and is pretty much completely useless unless you're a BURNDAYRAZ caster.

[maya]

the reason I havn't done most of the class challenges Is because after scouting them out I never really bothered giving any of them an actual attempt because at the time I thought I wasn't good enough. this was before I had unlocked any monster class in the game (and really before completing any vicious dungeons and possibly before completing the quest chains required to unlock them(ick swamp can dine in hell)) and after completing the three for thieves den and seeing it was only a veto slot I never got motivated to do the rest considering I still think half of them are hard (oh and monk silver can also join ick swamp as it is simply a harder version of it from what I have seen).

bloody sigil has the best money to cp ratio If I remember? even still I generally don't like buying 45 cp because it doesn't do much doesn't do much. I keep battlemage ring in the cycle because most of the time I play to favor magic builds and it can help a struggling class get a little more power but I suppose for 25 gold you could have just bought a schaden and be 10 gold richer with a bigger payout or grab crystal ball which for 14 (the pay affect included) has a better effect than even schaden. also yeah cursed cutlass sounds nice and the reason I never got it is because I sunk my time into a different quest only to be disappointed with consistent failure.

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[maya]

would I need magician gold to get the veto slot? I havn't done any class challenges on him (and probably should) and I don't want to long haul him to gold if I don't need to. in the mean time cursed cutlass ahoy.

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Nope. Simply doing all 3 base game gold challenges in each of the class buildings will net 1 veto slot apiece. In order of easiness, I'd probably say that in terms of difficulty, Thief Den < Guild < Mage Tower < Church, so start with your criminals unless you're already close to completing one of the buildings. EE Gold Challenges just net 9999 gold, which can be nice to top you off or help buy the late game upgrades, but are otherwise just there to be played and enjoyed.

[maya]

thief den already done and really guild? I thought the berserker quest was quite hard trying to turn a man who hates magic into a magic user himself. I also sorta still need to do silver bloodmage and have already done gold for both wizard and sorcerer so yeah. might do it anyway. only magician to go through oasis now