The Art of Negotiation

[Madness]

I meant resist shred. Meaning orc attacks have a Might-like effect.

[Joist]

Not sure if luck or amazing at game (it's both).

FIRST: Just because I completed this and I have a good strategy doesn't mean it's not a terrible challenge. Guarantee that MA and BURNDAYRAZ spawns on the middle Island and this would be a really neat challenge level.

As it stands you need to find a good leveling glyph right next to you at spawn (HALPMEH for me) and then you need to stumble on to MA without wasting too many dark tiles. Also you need MA to actually spawn, which she has a chance of not doing.

@Avatar: Here's the trick. Get to level 8. At level 8 your fireballs do 32 damage, so you can regen 3 dark tiles without The Undefeatable's health getting away from you (because he's on 1 health, 3 tiles = 30 health which leaves him at 31, just low enough to kill him with a fireball).

Here's the rythm. While you can't attack him because he'll 1-shot you go: (assume he starts at 1 health, you'll need to use pots/refreshment to get him there) regen 3 tiles, fireball, attack something else, regen 3 tiles, fireball, attack something else.

Use mystic balance for 5mp fireball. With this strategy each cycle only costs 2 mana. It's pretty easy to hit 18 mana if you get MA. 9 cycles of this removes 18 death protections. A couple of mana pots (with more cycles) and you can get him down to within attacking range.

Then do it again.

I had a health potion left over, the only thing I bought from shops was the Gloves of Midas, I didn't use the apothecary. Also, I used 2 refreshments before fighting The Undefeatable to kill a couple of good level up targets (if you look in the screenshot before, one on the level 9 snake and 1 on the level 7 Djinn).

Dark space was way more important than popcorn. I think that's why this level seems ridiculous and rubs us the wrong way. Just get to level 8 asap without using too much dark space.

I started fighting the boss when I killed the level 3 imp a level 8, I finished his first form off after the first level 1 AA at level 8.

edit: Oh, and the reason I think binlor is here is with knockback + burning you can shave off 3 death protections with 1 attack. You still need to burst him down to damage dealing range though.

edit2: Just realised, if you take Flames from MA you can start doing this at level 7.

[The Avatar]

Wait, wait, wait. How does 3 tiles get you 6 mana? Do I have to scum for B2P?

[Joist]

Fireball only costs 5 mana with MA. Regen 3 tiles = 3 mana, so each fireball only really costs 2 mana.

[The Avatar]

Oh. You mean with Mystic Balance. Thanks for the clarification.

[Joist]

That's the one. I always forget it because it's not on the wiki. I'll update that.

I took, mystic balance -> magic -> refreshment -> magic

2 magics are all you need to hit 20. I didn't take another because I was worried about killing too many magic using mobs and getting punished.

[The Avatar]

Nice call on the regen. I didn't find Mystera till level 3, and I explored half the map using BURNDAYRAZ. I still won with 4 healing and mana potions left. I bought a amulet instead of using magic. I got unstoppable.

EDIT: Sorc gold looks fairly easy in comparison. They brought back Eeblis, I trust you remember, although this time he has 555 hp, 105 damage, and counter fireball. Doesn't look very difficult, he's basically a souped up demonlord.

[Joist]

Nice! For gold just prep binlor and tri-sword, stone heart everything and win (or you could go fireball + GG for experimental fun).

I also didn't find MA for a while. I just spammed the only spell I had at the time to get some good initial magic (which was HALPMEH, which did help me).

[The Avatar]

Lucky. My only spell till I found MA was ENDISWALL. Not exactly ideal.

I think they should switch the bosses in the silver and gold challenges. 1. It makes more sense for the final boss to be called the undefeatable. 2. He's waaaaay harder.


Anyone have any luck with Berserker gold or Paladin Silver?

[Darvin]

Blue Bead better be getting one helluva buff if we're going through all this effort to get it