Troubling Times pt 2

[Gorgon]

The plants in the Rock Garden drop spoons! Pretty silly.

[The Avatar]

Hilarious! That actually could be rather powerful for a rogue...

[Crawly McCrawlsa]

Rogue + Cydstepp + 25 spoons. gg

[The Avatar]

Is it possible to lose? Anyways, are the new Getandafix and BlahBlah too hard for new players? I haven't tried them. What is the dungeon progression in the east? Is the Vicious crypt necessary to beat? Does it go from the Indomitable to Namtar?

Last thing, how are people doing in the new halls of steel? I got crushed by the Vicious version...

[Darvin]

New Getandafix only spawns mana-burn plants, which means the danger he presents is significantly less. The fact that he no longer spawns resist-down plants and barbing bushes means a berserker should cleave through him like a hot knife through butter and be largely unaffected by his antics. Overall the Western Jungle was the easiest of the "normal" difficulty dungeons in the game, so a stronger boss is perfectly reasonable.

I'd still say any normal difficulty dungeon where Bleaty spawns is the most egregious balance issue in that regard. I really don't know why Rock Garden is still getting attention; it's an interesting and well-rounded level (imo a little easiest than Grimm's Grotto) and I don't see why it's getting more work.

[The Avatar]

Bleaty just needs to change in general. He's way to imbalanced for a boss. With no way to tank his damage (usually) it's CYDSTEPP or lower resist and fireball. He needs a rework.

[TigerKnee]

Why not revert goat boss back to his alpha stats?

He still killed chars who aren't monks in one hit, that's his entire gimmick pretty much.

The difference is that his HP and magic resist are low enough that only completely combat-wombats who worship Taurog won't be able to beat him. Everyone else can do it if they didn't prematurely convert their Fireball glyphs or something.

[q 3]

Vampire's exhaustion does not activate when you are at full HP, then increase max HP without healing (e.g. via a conversion).

Combat prediction is still wrong when you have both death protection and lifesteal - showing "victory" when you'll actually lose your death protection with the next hit.

[Darvin]

[mtomato]

So Rock Garden was made even easier?
I could already clear it with a purist Fighter without worshiping a god.

Edit: I certainly didn't think through what I was saying.
What I meant that I think it was already too easy for me to consider hard.
Making it easier... well, makes me think it should be labeled normal rather than hard.
I now find Western Jungle harder than both Rock Garden and Havendale Bridge.