Vampire can farm Ying/Yang for limitless Piety

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Re: Vampire can farm Ying/Yang for limitless Piety

Postby Darvin on Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:20 pm

Doesn't need to be special; we've got loads of great items to choose from. Heck, just pick any from this list:

Amulet of Yendor
Sensation Stone
Keg of Health
Keg of Mana
Orb of Zot

All consumable, all awesome items that will leave you very happy no matter what you get.
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Re: Vampire can farm Ying/Yang for limitless Piety

Postby Crawly McCrawlsa on Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:59 pm

The thing is, the ability to abuse ying yang is basically only for fun, since there really isn't a practical use currently. It's a neat/fun thing to do right now, but not worth the reward. A new item would be cool, just like there's special items for other challenging subdungeons (like the different races/class/god subdungeons). I place ying/yang into the category of the bridge troll. It's a small accomplishment that is easily avoidable in the main dungeon run. So, I think it should have a comparable reward.
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Re: Vampire can farm Ying/Yang for limitless Piety

Postby gjaustin on Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:19 pm

I'd like to see the dungeon changed so that you don't need ENDISWALL to actually do it.

Now that I think about it, Ying/Yang should be one of the secret dungeons hidden behind a wall rather than a normal dungeon. Of course, it would need a better reward in that case.
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Re: Vampire can farm Ying/Yang for limitless Piety

Postby Fran on Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:02 pm

Is there a special dungeon where this subdungeon spawns?
I have never seen this one, although i naturally try to go into every subdungeon available.
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Re: Vampire can farm Ying/Yang for limitless Piety

Postby Crawly McCrawlsa on Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:32 pm

When I first started playing I would see it ALL THE TIME... basically meant I never had a useful subdungeon to ever use during my questing. After I got onto the level of completing vicious dungeons, I stopped seeing it. I only managed to actually hold on to endiswall once during this time, so I only made an attempt at the dungeon once and died due to a misclick. Since that encounter, I've never seen it come back. I always get one of the other numerous subdungeons.

Basically the worst subdungeon to get, and luckily, it hasn't returned to plague my characters in a LONG time. Bit of a lucky break even if it happens to be a bug. I've probably attempted at least a hundred dungeons since I last saw it... maybe I'm just really lucky.
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Re: Vampire can farm Ying/Yang for limitless Piety

Postby The Avatar on Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:39 pm

Yeah, it's a basic one, but it's still fairly uncommon. The zombies are still less frequent. Actually Fran, you might have seen it. It looks like a 3x5 area with walls around it. Crush the uppermost one to find the real subdungeon.
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Re: Vampire can farm Ying/Yang for limitless Piety

Postby Fran on Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:52 pm

The Avatar wrote:Yeah, it's a basic one, but it's still fairly uncommon. The zombies are still less frequent. Actually Fran, you might have seen it. It looks like a 3x5 area with walls around it. Crush the uppermost one to find the real subdungeon.


Oh, so that's what this dungeon is for. I've been there several times and always thought it's just about getting some extra tiles...
Will definitly look into it, thanks.

On a side note, whats the use for the orb of zot?
Do you use this to regen fight stronger enemies or has it another use?
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Re: Vampire can farm Ying/Yang for limitless Piety

Postby gjaustin on Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:35 am

Fran wrote:
The Avatar wrote:Yeah, it's a basic one, but it's still fairly uncommon. The zombies are still less frequent. Actually Fran, you might have seen it. It looks like a 3x5 area with walls around it. Crush the uppermost one to find the real subdungeon.


Oh, so that's what this dungeon is for. I've been there several times and always thought it's just about getting some extra tiles...
Will definitly look into it, thanks.

On a side note, whats the use for the orb of zot?
Do you use this to regen fight stronger enemies or has it another use?


That's the primary use. It also makes Berserk enemies much, much easier.
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Re: Vampire can farm Ying/Yang for limitless Piety

Postby The Avatar on Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:49 am

Woohoo warmonger berserker camp wizard!
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