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Re: Rock Garden, Ick Swamp, and Grimm's Grotto

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:41 pm
by gjaustin

Re: Rock Garden, Ick Swamp, and Grimm's Grotto

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:42 pm
by Darvin
True, but this case is egregious because without the high-end preparations, a Mystera-bomb Assassin is the best approach to beating Creeplight Ruins, and this strategy makes "unstoppable" a forgone conclusion.

Re: Rock Garden, Ick Swamp, and Grimm's Grotto

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:58 pm
by Fran
If you're a veteran, yes. But there are also new players and i highly doubt they'd come up with something like that at the time, at least i didn't.
Moreover, how should you know that this strategy works good when you never played the dungeon before?

Was happy when i beat the dungeon with a class i like visually and some preperations.

Re: Rock Garden, Ick Swamp, and Grimm's Grotto

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:02 pm
by gjaustin
Huh, I've never had any problems with Creeplight Ruins. Sure, I failed the first few times while I figured out the Cultists, but after that it really wasn't a problem.

Personally, I'd rather do it as one of the top tier classes.

Re: Rock Garden, Ick Swamp, and Grimm's Grotto

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:43 pm
by Darvin
On Creeplight Ruins (especially with only three deities unlocked so there's no scumming for Mystera), the assassin is a top-tier class. Sure, assassin isn't great for vicious levels, but he's top-notch for clearing out normal and hard difficulty dungeons. Honestly, for beginners this level is a real brick wall of difficulty, so I suspect the wiki page will get a lot of hits from people looking for strategies. The most reliable, straightforward strategy for this level is the Mystera-bomb assassin. Heck, I got a terrible layout and found Mystera very late in the game so I was only able to build up 60 piety for my mana leak, still had no troubles.

Keep in mind I'm hitting the eastern lands early. I haven't even unlocked all the classes yet, nor do I have access to the RBS, and my only decent locker item is the Trisword.

Re: Rock Garden, Ick Swamp, and Grimm's Grotto

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:20 pm
by Lujo
I've done it before as assasin without the mysteria bomb, it probably IS the best class for the job. However I was always handy with Assassin from Alpha times, I'm not sure if a casual / newbie would figure out that taking a poisoner into an undead level is the way to go.

Same thing goes for most of the western "undead" dungeons, especially halls of steel - with all the animated armors, illusions and crap, a pre buff goblin assassin was my go to class there.

Re: Rock Garden, Ick Swamp, and Grimm's Grotto

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:55 pm
by The Avatar
Especially since you can poison the Indomitable.