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Re: Preperation changes

Postby gjaustin on Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:12 pm

Or you still lose half your piety, you just don't need 50 to convert out.
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Re: Preperation changes

Postby Fran on Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:06 pm

gjaustin wrote:Or you still lose half your piety, you just don't need 50 to convert out.


That would mean you could convert out with exactly 0 piety giving you 25 bonus piety (at a time you choose to receive it) making it much better than the +25 piety preperation.
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Re: Preperation changes

Postby gjaustin on Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:28 pm

Fran wrote:
gjaustin wrote:Or you still lose half your piety, you just don't need 50 to convert out.


That would mean you could convert out with exactly 0 piety giving you 25 bonus piety (at a time you choose to receive it) making it much better than the +25 piety preperation.


No, converting out with 0 piety gives you 0 piety. You still have to earn it to get any boons.

Starting with 25 piety and GG
Earn 75 piety, get Enlightenment.
Earn 50 piety, convert
Ending Piety: 25
Total Piety Earned: 125

Starting with free convert and GG
Earn 100 piety, get Enlightenment.
Convert
Earn 25 piety
Ending Piety: 25
Total Piety Earned: 125


And starting with 25 piety is a lot. It can get you one or more boons from every deity. You can turn that starting boost into a lot of bonus exp.
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Re: Preperation changes

Postby Darvin on Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:58 pm

Ah, but the devil is in the details:

Starting with 25 piety and GG
Earn 75 piety, get Enlightenment.
Earn 50 piety from the glowing guardian, convert
Ending Piety: 25
Total Piety Earned: 125

Starting with free convert and GG
Earn 100 piety, get Enlightenment.
Convert
Earn 25 piety from any deity
Ending Piety: 25
Total Piety Earned: 125


This is the difference. The GG has very few ways to generate piety for high-level characters, so hitting 50 after enlightenment is hard to do. Hitting 50 piety with the GG at this late stage is more difficult than hitting 100 with Taurog or Tikki Tooki. On the other hand, many other piety farms are straightforward at this point and your biggest issue is just getting out from under GG's thumb.
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Re: Preperation changes

Postby gjaustin on Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:07 pm

That's still not 25 piety "whenever you want it".

It's in a very specific case when you have exactly 0 piety when you want to convert. And, like I said, you also lose the ability to take boons as soon as you find an altar.

On the whole, it'll come out about the same.
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Re: Preperation changes

Postby The Avatar on Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:12 pm

I was assuming you still needed 50 to convert, free or not.
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Re: Preperation changes

Postby Darvin on Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:15 pm

No, it's not 25 piety whenever you want. It's the ability to convert out without having to gather 50 piety. I'd actually say it's better than that since many deities can be very difficult to gain piety with and it becomes impractical to convert out. The ability to get in, grab your boon, then get out is massive.
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Re: Preperation changes

Postby The Avatar on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:25 pm

Yeah, finally something might compete with Scout: Altar.
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Re: Preperation changes

Postby gjaustin on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:29 pm

The Avatar wrote:Yeah, finally something might compete with Scout: Altar.


25 piety does already compete in any case where you don't need a specific deity for your strategy.
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Re: Preperation changes

Postby The Avatar on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:31 pm

True, but this is even better for specific. In levels like Naga City where you are guaranteed all altars this is a huge boost.
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