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Re: Monk still ridiculous + a guide to playing this game

Postby Lujo on Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:59 pm

I appologize for my choice of words, really. It detracts from peole listening to my arguments, I know, but i feel I'm adressing issues that are imortant (for DD players) even if you get to hear them from a comlete dick. :oops:
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Re: Monk still ridiculous + a guide to playing this game

Postby Lujo on Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:34 pm

I've unlocked the Dragonkin with the thief. I didn't even get enlightment, and I had 18 resists going down. I took no absolution either. And patches kept "screwing me over". This is absurd. :oops:

I had trouble with completing Dragon isles 3 times, it was sort of a big issue, which classes can do it, which classes can't... Turns out you need no junk in the shops, TT and GG. And dragonshield...

I think I'll go try unlock Gorgon now.
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Re: Monk still ridiculous + a guide to playing this game

Postby Gorgon on Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:49 pm

The Gorgon quest is the only one I haven't beaten yet. I only need one victory.

I beat it with the Thief and Warlord. Almost beat it with priest. I had the perfect setup: Mystera, GG and Pactmaker on the top, but got Bleaty, Frank and Tower of Goo at the same time...
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Re: Monk still ridiculous + a guide to playing this game

Postby Lujo on Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:36 pm

Ok, I've beaten Hex Ruins, but neither the Deep Swamp or the Naga City turned up on the map for me. Am I suposed to go through Slime pits or is this a bug?

Oh, and since they removed Ick swamp, where do I get the goblins?

EDIT - Found Ick swam, you need a subdungeon with Nagas to appear and issue a challenge.
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Re: Monk still ridiculous + a guide to playing this game

Postby The Avatar on Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:41 pm

Goblins can be found anywhere in the south. I think my new profile found them in slime pits. Or Hexx Ruins.

Naga City has 4 easy wins: Monk (Beat it in 2 tries), Warlord, (Gnome, JJ, GETINDARE, and CYDSTEPP. Prep Avatar symbol),
Thief, and Rogue (Gnome, Symbol, CYDSTEPP, and use drac to bring hp to 1)

I've seen some others, like wizard, but these seem to be the easiest.
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Re: Monk still ridiculous + a guide to playing this game

Postby Lujo on Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:51 pm

I've beaten it with Monk and Thief on my previous profile, and would've done so with Fighter if i didn't misclick 2 times. You just need resists, and agnostic collar for god juggling, that seems to beat everything, especially with many gods.

Come to think of it, is Naga City not appearing for me becase I haven't unlocked gods? Because if so, its not fair! :P
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Re: Monk still ridiculous + a guide to playing this game

Postby The Avatar on Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:26 pm

Did you beat Ick Swamp? That's what triggers Naga City.
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Re: Monk still ridiculous + a guide to playing this game

Postby Lujo on Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:59 pm

The Avatar wrote:Did you beat Ick Swamp? That's what triggers Naga City.


I beat it, and I've unlocked Naga City. But I'm afraid to go in, because it might unlock all of the gods and mess up my game -.-'

I'm also pretty sure I could beat it 3 times like this, Monk, Pally and Thief - it shouldn't be that hard. I'm thinking of leaving it for last, as I don't think I'll be unlocking anything else except possibly pactmaker untill I've beaten all the vicious stuff. I've never had a smoother, easier game so far, and the fact that it's still challenging just goes to show (from my perspective), that the game is balanced around a few broken classes and items, as well as the prep system q3 mentioned.

And that's terrible, as what I'm doing is just plain wrong.

And what's worse, it could've been done tighter, by unlocking the bloodmage instead of the assasin, or possibly without unlocking either of them, and incresing my chances of getting Halpmeh every time, and finding a way to unlock Pactmaker sooner (as it is I'm still on 2 gods, and I could really use him to make my switch from GG to TT every game easier). I wouldn't even need to unlock agnostics collar untill Naga City and Gaan'Telet then. And I deffinitely wouldn't unlock the bead, and I'd think twice about unlocking Poison Ward.
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Re: Monk still ridiculous + a guide to playing this game

Postby Alweth on Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:14 pm

One of the fundamental issues with unlocking in DD Beta is that unlocking new items or gods increases the randomness in the dungeon by providing yet another option that might show up in one of a limited number of slots.

I actually suspect I would enjoy a dungeon where every god appeared more than the current system, provided something was done to rebalance conversion and desecration. (I would give desecration give 10 less piety each time, and have the conversion piety ratio increase by one each time, ie. 1/2. 1/3, 1/4, 1/5, etc. However, something would still need to be done about some gods being auto-desecratates.)
Were you expecting a coherent message? Alweth does not deal with such trifles. Ignore him or watch the thread get locked!
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Re: Monk still ridiculous + a guide to playing this game

Postby gjaustin on Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:32 pm

Lujo wrote:
The Avatar wrote:Did you beat Ick Swamp? That's what triggers Naga City.


I beat it, and I've unlocked Naga City. But I'm afraid to go in, because it might unlock all of the gods and mess up my game -.-'

I'm also pretty sure I could beat it 3 times like this, Monk, Pally and Thief - it shouldn't be that hard. I'm thinking of leaving it for last, as I don't think I'll be unlocking anything else except possibly pactmaker untill I've beaten all the vicious stuff. I've never had a smoother, easier game so far, and the fact that it's still challenging just goes to show (from my perspective), that the game is balanced around a few broken classes and items, as well as the prep system q3 mentioned.

And that's terrible, as what I'm doing is just plain wrong.

And what's worse, it could've been done tighter, by unlocking the bloodmage instead of the assasin, or possibly without unlocking either of them, and incresing my chances of getting Halpmeh every time, and finding a way to unlock Pactmaker sooner (as it is I'm still on 2 gods, and I could really use him to make my switch from GG to TT every game easier). I wouldn't even need to unlock agnostics collar untill Naga City and Gaan'Telet then. And I deffinitely wouldn't unlock the bead, and I'd think twice about unlocking Poison Ward.


Paladin and Thief are definitely the classes I'd recommend. You might have to find a Tower Shield in the shops to get past Bleaty though.
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