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Re: The new "metagame" - Perfect Profiles for Classes

Postby Crawly McCrawlsa on Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:29 pm

So, If I wanted to make the super vampire kingdom, what must I do? What are the requirements for dracul, what quests should I avoid, etc.
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Re: The new "metagame" - Perfect Profiles for Classes

Postby Lujo on Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:40 pm

Yep, he's required, so I guess youre stuck on two usefull gods :(

The really bad thing (which kept screwing me over so many times) is that you can spend some time in GG with a poison attack if you only attack undead. But lifesteal works on undead :(
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Re: The new "metagame" - Perfect Profiles for Classes

Postby gjaustin on Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:51 pm

Crawly McCrawlsa wrote:So, If I wanted to make the super vampire kingdom, what must I do? What are the requirements for dracul, what quests should I avoid, etc.


Now I haven't finished and tested it yet, but it's more a question of what you want rather than what to avoid. Since he can't have resistances and is immune to poison and mana burn, that means there's a LOT of stuff you can skip.


As far as I can tell, the requirements for Dracul are to get Glowing Guardian. I got GG in the eastern dungeon one run, and got Dracul in the same dungeon the next run. I'm going with Taurog for a third deity, but TT would work too.

As for items, all you really want to unlock are Agnostic's Collar and Midas Gloves. The Trisword is probably worth it too, even if just to make unlocking him that much easier.

As for classes, you want to unlock all the second tier classes and Warlord at the minimum. You'll need CYDSTEPP to beat bosses like Bleaty. I think you would want to unlock Bloodmage as well, since BLUDPOWA works great for a Vampire and it also lets you unlock Vampiric Blade.

Assassin is definitely a no, as poison doesn't work well with the Vampire. Unlocking the Paladin is optional. I'm fairly certain HALPMEH ticks off Dracul, but at the same time once you convert out to Taurog or TT it'll help a lot.


I'll probably be creating a second Vampire profile to compare TT with Taurog. I'll name it Carlisle to keep the theme going :)
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Re: The new "metagame" - Perfect Profiles for Classes

Postby Lujo on Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:18 pm

Hate to potentially burst your bubble guys, but I'm having serious trouble unlocking the vampire. You have to go thorugh the indomitable and the old hard BlahBlah (not the vicious one). One guy has 50 death protections, the other guy has 14X0 HP and hits for loads. I've done it with a monk, but that doesn't mean anything, someone will do the current vicious Gaan'Telet with a monk at some point, I'm sure.

How in the world do you beat that damn dungeon? I'm having trouble with the pissedoff wizard and I've mopped the hard version with him harder than with the monk.
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Re: The new "metagame" - Perfect Profiles for Classes

Postby Gorgon on Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:27 pm

Lujo wrote:I've done it with a monk, but that doesn't mean anything, someone will do the current vicious Gaan'Telet with a monk at some point, I'm sure.


Are you sure? If a monk ever gets past the Animated Armors, he will be crushed by the lower-resists slimes.

How in the world do you beat that damn dungeon? I'm having trouble with the pissedoff wizard and I've mopped the hard version with him harder than with the monk.


Has the vampire quest been moved? I thought it was in the Crypt...
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Re: The new "metagame" - Perfect Profiles for Classes

Postby gjaustin on Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:04 pm

Gorgon wrote:
Lujo wrote:I've done it with a monk, but that doesn't mean anything, someone will do the current vicious Gaan'Telet with a monk at some point, I'm sure.


Are you sure? If a monk ever gets past the Animated Armors, he will be crushed by the lower-resists slimes.

How in the world do you beat that damn dungeon? I'm having trouble with the pissedoff wizard and I've mopped the hard version with him harder than with the monk.


Has the vampire quest been moved? I thought it was in the Crypt...


Yeah, I''m 100% sure it was in the Crypt before.

And considering I've gotten Purist on Crypt...
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Re: The new "metagame" - Perfect Profiles for Classes

Postby The Avatar on Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:44 pm

...it really shouldn't be that hard. Especially if you want to unlock whupaz.
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Re: The new "metagame" - Perfect Profiles for Classes

Postby gjaustin on Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:40 am

Huh, beating the Hard version of Halls of Steel doesn't unlock the Crypt.

I must be missing something.
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Re: The new "metagame" - Perfect Profiles for Classes

Postby The Avatar on Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:23 am

Wait, how do you unlock it now? The hard Crypt is gone.
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Re: The new "metagame" - Perfect Profiles for Classes

Postby Crawly McCrawlsa on Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:41 am

i needs my crypttttt. Must have vampire for mah vampire kingdom
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