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Re: PISORFF needs a buff! True story.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:33 am
by The Avatar
True... but it's not extremely necessary. Its great enough without the bonus.

Re: PISORFF needs a buff! True story.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:47 pm
by Lujo
So with all the recent buffs to spellcasters tweaked a bit, and burndyraz buffed, the title of this topic is rather accurate, I think. So I'm bumping it. (somebody even suggested buffing PISORFF in the update thread, and someone told him to make a thread about it, and there allready WAS a theread about it, blah blah)

Re: PISORFF needs a buff! True story.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:55 pm
by The Avatar
I like 75% into a wall, 50% into another monster, and 25% if nothing's there. Then it's more versitile. Also, on a wall crushing note, stone heart is no longer a very good transmuter artifact. I say change the heart and then reduce the cost to 3 (2 for wizards).

Re: PISORFF needs a buff! True story.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:53 am
by q 3
Now that Strength Potions are useless for PISORF this topic is, like, super double true. Not sure what the solution is, though. I'll repeat my suggestion that IMAWAL be able to create walls in empty tiles (without granting the XP boost).

Re: PISORFF needs a buff! True story.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:42 pm
by The Avatar
Wait, what'd they do to strength potions? If you buy 3 it's the equivalent of manax4 right?

Re: PISORFF needs a buff! True story.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:57 pm
by q 3
PISORF dispels the effect after one use now, just as though you'd done a normal attack.

Re: PISORFF needs a buff! True story.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:28 pm
by Darvin
I'm with Avatar; 75% when pushed into a wall, 50% into another monster, and 25% if nothings there seems the right way to go with PISORF. The one thing I would add is that it shouldn't be able to actually kill monsters if you push them into empty spaces, so that PISORF can still be used to line up a monsters without killing them.

Re: PISORFF needs a buff! True story.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:46 pm
by The Avatar
That makes sense. They're not gonna die if you push them over. Although that would be a buff to half-dragons. They would do one fourth of their knockback damage no matter what.

Re: PISORFF needs a buff! True story.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:54 pm
by gjaustin
I was about to post and say that I'd love to see this change, especially if it's a Half-Dragon buff. But then I changed my mind.

This is a Gorgon nerf. Knockback damage removes poison! Knockback helped me beat Naga City and will be absolutely necessary if I ever manage to beat Halls of Steel with her.

Re: PISORFF needs a buff! True story.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:06 pm
by Darvin
Just make knockback from attacks not remove poison. That's a fix that's been needed for a while.