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Postby oatmeal2k on Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:59 am

Its an integrated card, but I've been having crashes on this and my other laptop too. No particular slowdown that I noticed, just lots and lots of messy messy crashes, I have never seen such a crashy game. And, just for giggles I tried it in IE instead, same dungeon, crash boom. I know its a beta, but it has to be baseline playable if I'm gonna try to contribute. I think I'm done, maybe I'll check back in when its off unity and see if I get a return on my 10 bucks. Here's my specs from the unity crash:

OS: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (6.1.7601) 64bit
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 840 @ 1.87GHz, count: 8
Physical RAM: 16312 MB
Addressable RAM: 2048 MB

Renderer: NVIDIA Quadro FX 3800M
VendorID: 10de
Driver: nvd3dum.dll
VRAM: 997 (via DXGI)

Version: 3.3.0
Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer: Quadro FX 3800M/PCI/SSE2
VRAM: 997 (via DXGI)
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Postby zeemeerman2 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:48 pm

My previous laptop always crashed when Unity had fully loaded the game (black bar at the beginning of the game was full, then crashed). Nowadays with a much newer laptop, I never have Desktop Dungeons crashed once.

So I assume it has to do something with one or more aspects about the hardware:
Older laptop had 2 GB DDR2 RAM, new laptop 4 GB DDR3 RAM (so too little RAM may be an issue)
Older laptop had an integrated Intel GMA X3100 card with 144 MB VRAM, new laptop a dedicated ATI Radeon HD 6750M card with 512 MB VRAM (so too little VRAM may be an issue)
Older laptop had a 2.1 GHz Core 2 Duo cpu, new laptop has a 2.2 GHz Sandy Bridge i7 cpu, though I don't think it has something to do with this.
Older laptop used Firefox or Aurora, newer laptop uses Chrome, though I don't think it has to do something with this.

Decrease your RAM by putting less RAM in your pc or running an application or virtual machine eating your precious RAM and some CPU power. Or buy a cheap netbook running Desktop Dungeons inside the browser, looking for crashes. -- just for testing purposes of course.
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Postby Artagas on Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:10 pm

Since the most recent patch the game crashed 2x for me when i delivered the killing blow to the boss. No need to say how annoying it is (especially after the last one when i managed a totally brilliant laby win with 1 hp/3mp/no potions left)
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Postby MaskedHuzzah on Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:21 pm

I've had it occur more than a dozen times in the past few weeks, across IE, FF, and Chrome, always with the latest Unity install. It happens regardless of dungeon or circumstance - I usually keep playing until it crashes. I've been trying the various vicious dungeons, but it has also occurred on the easier money runs. I've seen more crashes than end screens of any kind since this started happening.

I've seen unity crash as I was buying something from a shop, but it's more likely to happen when I'm fireballing something, and happens more often when I've been fireballing constantly. It's a school PC, but a quick check shows that it has:

Pentium Dual-Core CPU E5300 @ 2.6 GHZ 2.6 GHZ
4.00 GB RAM
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Postby The Avatar on Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:33 pm

I have never seen a crash on safari. At least on my Mac.

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Postby Lujo on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:48 am

It crashed safari for me, I tried it on your recommendation.
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Postby The Avatar on Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:15 pm

Hmm... Then I gues it's your computer. I have a really big desktop Mac, and it works fine.

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Postby Sythion on Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:44 pm

I'm extremely surprised that there are people who are NOT crashing.

This is happening on my work laptop (shhh... don't tell my boss!), my old gaming laptop, my old PC, and my new high-end PC. Unity versions vary on them significantly, but all of them crash on Vicious difficulty levels. Loadouts don't seem to make a difference.

I seem to be able to get smaller dungeons to work for my 5x gold runs.

I would say there is maybe a 5% chance of the game not crashing on Vicious difficulty by the end.

Really incredibly likely odds.

All of my PCs are running Intel processors, that is the only connection I can see.
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Postby gjaustin on Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:48 pm

How memory do those computers have? I've crashed on my 4GB work machine (don't tell my boss either), but not my 8GB personal machine. I have an older computer with 2GB so I might pull it our and give it a try.

I DID get some nasty slowdown on an Assassin run of VHoS though. But it held out until the end.
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Postby Gorgon on Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:11 am

I play on a Macbook Pro using Chrome and I've never had a Unity crash.
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