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Re: Preparations

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:57 am
by The Avatar
There is pretty much no use for it. Im still unsure why I would prepare it if it was free...


Here's and interesting idea for a prep: It has a negative gold cost, and a bad effect. Something like -1 hp per level up.

Re: Preparations

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:00 am
by TigerKnee
I wasn't talking about early Beta Smuggler's den by the way, I was talking the e3 demo. It had different functionality there. The den had multiple "up" staircases and entrances and allowed you to travel to different parts of the map. I would LOVE that on that Naga city.

Lucket Packets is a terrible preparation because you can't control the "good" effects, for example, wasting the +50% exp boost because you're entirely blocked by level 1s, and to top it off it has a side effect that's just a little better than being mana burned or teleported to an unwinnable state.

Re: Preparations

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:06 am
by The Avatar
It's too much like a worse patches that replaces your gold piles.

Re: Preparations

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:14 am
by dislekcia
The entire church is going to be changing pretty drastically soon. FYI ;) We have this idea that we'd like to try out...

Re: Preparations

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:23 pm
by The Avatar
Yes! Yeah, the four preparation buttons are kinda disappointing...

Re: Preparations

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:30 pm
by Halion
All the new church preps will focus on starting the game with extra piety/altars/boon effects, but fill dungeons with hordes of no-xp goats with annoying abilities.

And any time you typo altar as alter on the forums, the goats get stronger.

Any truth in this post is strictly coincidental. And awesome. Coincidentally awesome.

Re: Preparations

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:39 pm
by The Avatar
Oh gosh, I'm screwed! ;)

Re: Preparations

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:49 pm
by gjaustin
Darvin wrote:If you're really that strapped for cash even with black market, then you'd be sacrificing many of the items you're buying from apothecaries or other shops to afford the double-cost black market items. If you think it's really bad, then exclude artifacts from the list of items that can be sold. Other than artifacts, it's not like these are items that couldn't appear elsewhere.


The problem with making them cost more as a balancing factor is Translocation Seal. You could make them cost a 1,000,000 gold and it wouldn't really matter. It still helps, but it isn't a foolproof solution.

The other problem with the prep is that it encourages you to only use 2 slots of your Locker, so that you know exactly what you're going to find. Alternatively, preventing Artifacts and Conversion Stone from appearing would let you have more stuff in your locker and still prevent


Basically, I'm saying that the extra shop shouldn't just be added on to an existing prep that's already fairly good. It should replace a bad prep, like Lucky Packets or Extra Elite Items. The latter would make a lot of sense, since it's already a shop prep.

Re: Preparations

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:37 pm
by The Avatar
Extra Elites isn't bad, Apothocary is better. I'd rather replace quest items.

And I think he said you can't rob a black market/buy artifacts. Although the only one worth buying would be Dragon Sheild. The 100 cost for the ward and symbol would be off the charts. I think you could buy a conversion stone, but since you buy it out of your locker, you'd have to bring it back to replace it. Or go kill another bridge troll.

Re: Preparations

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:13 pm
by Darvin
he entire church is going to be changing pretty drastically soon. FYI ;) We have this idea that we'd like to try out...

Glad to hear it. Scout Player is the only prep in there worth keeping, so feel free to scrap the rest.


The problem with making them cost more as a balancing factor is Translocation Seal. You could make them cost a 1,000,000 gold and it wouldn't really matter. It still helps, but it isn't a foolproof solution.

Translocation Seal doesn't work on shops where you can select one item from a list of choices ;-)


Extra Elites isn't bad, Apothocary is better. I'd rather replace quest items.

Agreed. Shop scroll isn't so great either now that we have extra shops from the upgraded Bezar.