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Re: The One True Path

Postby Summerwine on Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:37 pm

The Avatar wrote:Tinker in Naga City? How'd that work? Anyone have a Namtar Vampire win? I know it's doable, but I dunno if anyone's tried it.




Not very well past those first two bosses, but I still had a fun time in the prayer room.

Though with all the piety gains I could probably do it if I had better luck with the items I found. Bring a compression scroll, and watch out for statuses. The two transmutation scrolls you begin with should be enough to keep Tikki quite pleased. (I'd recommend smashing Mystera and Earthmother's altars first.)
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Re: The One True Path

Postby The Avatar on Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:01 pm

Definitely. With an Agnostics Collar and good resists your fine.
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Re: The One True Path

Postby gjaustin on Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:19 pm

Sort of a cross post from the bug reports, but Vampire really is silly.

I nearly beat Namtar despite my desecrating TT and giving all his forms Weakening! When I didn't desecrate the altar, I just walked right over him.
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Re: The One True Path

Postby The Avatar on Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:30 pm

It takes 1-3 tries to beat Vicious. Now there's no way that's broken...
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Re: The One True Path

Postby Leeshy on Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:46 am

Does anybody actually still use the Church preparations?
I mean if you think u need a special god to beat a level, it's probably because you think it's quite hard.
Why would u want to make it even harder by giving the monsters buffs...?
I actually liked the previous preparations much better. Haven't used any since the update...
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Re: The One True Path

Postby gjaustin on Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:07 am

Leeshy wrote:Does anybody actually still use the Church preparations?
I mean if you think u need a special god to beat a level, it's probably because you think it's quite hard.
Why would u want to make it even harder by giving the monsters buffs...?
I actually liked the previous preparations much better. Haven't used any since the update...


The only two I use are Extra Altar and Binlor. The former because it has no drawbacks and the latter only in Labyrinth and Shifting Passages.
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Re: The One True Path

Postby Darvin on Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:14 am

Not using them here, either. The only deities worth ensuring have penalties that are so ridiculously steep as to be unusable.

I have one account with all deities unlocked that uses +1 alter, and one account with a 4-deity strategic unlock that just doesn't prep anything from the church.
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Re: The One True Path

Postby TigerKnee on Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:35 am

Should either spawn Altars next to stairs + give indulgence or something

OR

Make it Guranteed spawn altar (Location still random) + minor bonus e.g Earthmother = all enemies start slowed and +1 point of corrosion. (I just made this up off the top of my head so probably not balanced)

As it is, you're going to have to scum for your altar anyway.
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Re: The One True Path

Postby The Avatar on Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:15 am

Actually, now they spawn very near the stairs. I think it should spawn the altar as a fourth, still giving the penalty.
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Re: The One True Path

Postby Ara on Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:08 am

I always use the +1 altar for vicious runs. But for normal/hard dungeons I already used church prep for: JJ, Binlor, Mystera and Dracul (I think I just don't like other gods). And sometimes I really want Pactmaker ._. so when I'm patient I take JJ (always useful, formidable piety farm) and scum for Pactmaker ._.

There's lots of room for other options in the church department: so please move the extra altar option in its own spot, and put Pactmaker in da house!

Remove penalties, period.


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Seriously, what to think of the Earthmother case ? One of the worst penalty for one of the worst deity... Kill her already!

And I find Taurog so crappy... Give him a Main Gauche for +5 damage AND 5 DR, and an Armor for +15 to both resists, then add 2 boons. One of them beeing a repeatable buff that pierce resistances for one round (both please, half dragons hate beeing discriminated).
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