Thoughts on Mystera

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Re: Thoughts on Mystera

Postby Ara on Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:37 pm

Flames: I like the idea to apply 2 fireburns at once, but why boost Flames when you may just want to reduce the physical damage penalty ? I find BURNDAYRAZ pretty powerful, and making this kind of change would imbalance casters further.

Mana Leak: After that change, pure casters would be in a pretty bad shape. And what if I want to cast ENDISWAL to survive the next hit, then finish the monster with GETINDARE ?


You could separate BURNDAYRAZ casters from the others by concentrating bonus-malus in one boon like:
Lich Form: BURNDAYRAZ damage is increased by 1 per level, applies 2 stacks of Fireburn, and cost 1 less mana. In exchange, your bonus damage is reduced by 100%, your health cannot regenerate normaly and HALPMEH is helpless.

Then you could make a different kind of Mana Leak:
Mana Leech: Each time you inflict physical damage, you regenerate 1 mana. And I can't think of a proper malus right now.
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Re: Thoughts on Mystera

Postby Darvin on Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:19 pm

Flames: I like the idea to apply 2 fireburns at once, but why boost Flames when you may just want to reduce the physical damage penalty ? I find BURNDAYRAZ pretty powerful, and making this kind of change would imbalance casters further.

The problem I have with both this and the current flames is that it only appeals to a BURNDAYRAZ specialist.

Mana Leak: After that change, pure casters would be in a pretty bad shape. And what if I want to cast ENDISWAL to survive the next hit, then finish the monster with GETINDARE ?

If you're a level 5 character, then you need to pay 5 HP. Is it really any different than revealing one extra tile to afford the mana cost? If you need the health more, this boon is a bad thing. If you need the mana more, it's a good thing. It's the kind of tradeoff Mystera needs, particularly to give some BLUDTUPOWA alternatives to using her effectively.\


As for your suggestions, I feel they infringe heavily on Dracul's theme. In fact, Blood Hunger can be used to gain MP on attack when combo'ed with BLUDTUPOWA.
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Re: Thoughts on Mystera

Postby The Avatar on Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:39 pm

Yeah, I like the mana leak change. Anyways, it would be interesting with HALPMEH. 3 mana for 2 hp, or 4 mana for 3 hp?
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Re: Thoughts on Mystera

Postby Lagmalix on Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:01 pm

I have completed every vicious dungeon with a pure fireball Elf Sorc + Mystera, except the Dragon's Isle where I wasn't worshiping her and did the teleport trick instead. So I don't understand what's the problem. No one seems to complain about Taurog being "one-dimensional"? I'm not really saying she can't be tweaked but her boons seem fine.
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Re: Thoughts on Mystera

Postby gjaustin on Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:21 pm

Lagmalix wrote:I have completed every vicious dungeon with a pure fireball Elf Sorc + Mystera, except the Dragon's Isle where I wasn't worshiping her and did the teleport trick instead. So I don't understand what's the problem. No one seems to complain about Taurog being "one-dimensional"? I'm not really saying she can't be tweaked but her boons seem fine.


The funny thing about Taurog is that he can actually be really nice for casters in certain circumstances, like Elf Warlord, Human Sorcerer, or Orc Bloodmage.
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Re: Thoughts on Mystera

Postby Darvin on Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:23 pm

No one seems to complain about Taurog being "one-dimensional"?

I have. Repeatedly.

I seriously considered making this a thread about Mystera, Taurog, and Earthmother all at once but I decided that was overkill.
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