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Re: Preparations Should Be Free

Postby The Avatar on Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:51 pm

WEYTWUT or converting the heart. But only WEYTWUT actually lets you keep it.
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Re: Preparations Should Be Free

Postby Darvin on Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:45 pm

There are a total of five ways to get past Draco that I am aware of:

1) Convert the heart (pointless)
2) Kill him (low-level characters cannot do this)
3) WEYTWUT (ideal)
4) PISORF and/or Knockback Attack (works well)
5) IMAWAL then ENDISWAL (unlikely but doable)
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Re: Preparations Should Be Free

Postby The Avatar on Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:13 am

I thought there were rivers, which to my knowledge you can't destroy with knock back.
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Re: Preparations Should Be Free

Postby Darvin on Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:36 am

You just knock him back until you've pushed him past the entrance to the subdungeon.

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Re: Preparations Should Be Free

Postby The Avatar on Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:34 am

Aha! I get it now...

You really should be able to locker the heart...
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Re: Preparations Should Be Free

Postby Kinsman on Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:45 pm

You can also ENDISWAL all the way around the outside if you know what happens when you pick the heart up, although this is somewhat of a waste of rescources if you don't have a stoneheart.
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Re: Preparations Should Be Free

Postby Darvin on Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:50 pm

Rock Heart (Stone Heart is something else entirely...) or BLUDTUPOWA should make such an approach entirely feasible. If you're a Binlor worshipper or otherwise encounter this subdungeon as a low-level character, mining around the edge would be an entirely reasonable use of resources. So there, a sixth method to getting around Draco.
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Re: Preparations Should Be Free

Postby q 3 on Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:11 pm

I think I've only even seen Draco's subdungeon once. Maybe there should be a prep slot for specific subdungeons? At least for beta testing purposes. ;)
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Re: Preparations Should Be Free

Postby Darvin on Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:39 pm

Draco's subdungeon is only found in the west, and not on Dragon Isles (which, of course, always has the Matron's Lair). I've also never seen it on western jungle, which would limit him to only three different levels (Havensdale Bridge, Labyrinth, and Magma Mines), so if you're not playing those scenarios often it's entirely plausible you'd never see him.
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Re: Preparations Should Be Free

Postby gjaustin on Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:43 pm

q 3 wrote:I think I've only even seen Draco's subdungeon once. Maybe there should be a prep slot for specific subdungeons? At least for beta testing purposes. ;)


That would probably be much more interesting than any of the current Thief preps.

They'd probably need to divided into groups:

High Risk/High Reward (Draco, Yin/Yang, Resist Down Plants, Booby Trap, Zombie Treasure)
Blessing of the Gods (Druid Grove, Goat Altar, any remaining deity sub-dungeon)
Nice and Easy (everything else - should be the ones with a level 5 monster or a sign)
Smuggler Den (replaces the normal subdungeon, but now contains three level 2 monsters and Patches)
Lucky (guarantees a bonus subdungeon spawns)
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