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Re: Silent Update?

Postby Joist on Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:58 pm

Darvin wrote:If you can get through Frank like this, you can get through anyone. Immune to poison, generally good HP, and a real bruiser in terms of damage output. I'd not be surprised if you could beat every hard-difficulty level like this, and it's really demonstrating how OP burning strats are. Now, I doubt you could pull this off on Dragon Isles, but it is possible. Namtar's Lair is a big maybe, but it'll require a way to get past his fireball retaliation (can't remember which form), and I sincerely doubt it'll work on Demonic Library (though I notice in the other thread you came very close; I'm impressed). Naga City is straight out.


Right now I'm convinced I can squeeze a Purist run out of dragon isles with this strat. 3 times I've had matron at less than half health. Killing the first boss at level 1 is the easy part, you just need to scout him and the BURNDARAYZ early and have one of (MA, JJ, BLUDTOPOWA). Takes less than a minute to see if it's going to work out and it's free because it's purist. Just load up the level and scout around the middle isle for the vision bonus, easy to see if you have access to things. The most important thing is getting a 2 fireball 1 poison rythme going. Dealing with matron is hard. I think if I found a fire sword or a piercing wand it'd be in the bag.

So close, I used almost every resource. If it was dracul instead of taurog I think I would have won: http://i.imgur.com/AzJ9d.png http://i.imgur.com/jNJhC.png

I agree about the "every hard dungeon" except for Labyrinth and Ick Swamp, maybe Magma Mines too. Too crowded to build up burning.

There we go, VHoS. One misclick from a perfect run ._. I think it proves that it can be done at least.

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Re: Silent Update?

Postby Darvin on Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:54 pm

I agree about the "every hard dungeon" except for Labyrinth and Ick Swamp, maybe Magma Mines too. Too crowded to build up burning.

An early ENDISWAL find will make Labyrinth doable. Ick swamp should be doable with Earthmother (clearance), and the boss is very vulnerable to the piercing wand with this approach. Magma Mines, you should be fine so long as you find the physical-resist boss sufficiently early and locate the magic-resist boss before you make the killing blow.
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Re: Silent Update?

Postby The Avatar on Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:27 pm

I think Demonic Library should be doable, with less scumming as Dragon Isles. All you need is MA and WEYTWUT.
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Re: Silent Update?

Postby Fran on Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:03 pm

The real challenge propably lies in getting the medal for having every monster killed on the vicious dungeons.
And by that, I mean not by (ab)using the assassin, of course.

In a sense, you're actually making the game easier by using all ressources only on the bosses when you think about it.
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Re: Silent Update?

Postby The Avatar on Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:08 am

Because then the rest is easy clean-up work.
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Re: Silent Update?

Postby Joist on Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:12 am

Darvin wrote:
I agree about the "every hard dungeon" except for Labyrinth and Ick Swamp, maybe Magma Mines too. Too crowded to build up burning.

An early ENDISWAL find will make Labyrinth doable. Ick swamp should be doable with Earthmother (clearance), and the boss is very vulnerable to the piercing wand with this approach. Magma Mines, you should be fine so long as you find the physical-resist boss sufficiently early and locate the magic-resist boss before you make the killing blow.


Good points :)

The Avatar wrote:I think Demonic Library should be doable, with less scumming as Dragon Isles. All you need is MA and WEYTWUT.


I'm having a lot of trouble with magic resist bosses on lower levels. Any ideas how to reduce their resistances without the piercing wand?
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Re: Silent Update?

Postby The Avatar on Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:15 am

I've killed him with 2-3 shots of MA's Weakening. Once he has 20-30% magic res, he isn't hard. (Presuming you've killed all others excluding counter fireball.)
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Re: Silent Update?

Postby Joist on Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:17 am

The Avatar wrote:I've killed him with 2-3 shots of MA's Weakening. Once he has 20-30% magic res, he isn't hard. (Presuming you've killed all others excluding counter fireball.)


Weakening doesn't affect other dungeon levels than the one you're on. New change?
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Re: Silent Update?

Postby The Avatar on Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:36 am

Oh. Missed the lower levels part. I haven't had too much trouble, I just pop whupaz on the avatar, and I can usually fireball him to death.
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Re: Silent Update?

Postby Darvin on Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:38 am

I think he's talking about Demonic Library, while you're talking about Dragon Isles. :lol:
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