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Re: Thougths on Momentum

Postby The Avatar on Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:12 pm

All you'd need is about 88-90 base. That's really not THAT hard with a Tri-Sword.
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Re: Thougths on Momentum

Postby Kuranes on Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:30 pm

The Avatar wrote:Oh god. Imagine an orc crusader with 290% attack bonus (Momentum 100%, Avatar Symbol 100%, Attack Boosters 50%, Badge of Courage 10%, Perseverance Badge 10%, Dwarven Gauntlets 20%). That's 195 damage without conversions.


This needs to be done. I will be awaiting the annotated playthrough. ;)
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Re: Thougths on Momentum

Postby Darvin on Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:12 pm

I've already done over 250 damage Orc Crusader... as a level 2.

Avatar's Symbol, maxed momentum, attack booster +50%, pretty everything I can get my hands on converted, and four strength potions. Next time I hope to find a Trisword as well.

1-hitted Grimm's Grotto Bleaty with that approach. Have a taste of your own medicine, you damn goat...
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Re: Thougths on Momentum

Postby gjaustin on Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:04 pm

Nice. You may have actually discovered a way to make the Crusader useful...

If you can kill one of the bosses at level 2 or 3, you'll have a bunch of enemies left over to use on the other boss.
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Re: Thougths on Momentum

Postby Darvin on Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:12 pm

Problem is that I converted all my glyphs, and spent all my money on strength potions which I chugged in succession while using up all of my exploration space. The sheer number of resources necessary to pull this off is so impractical that you're better off playing conventionally. As well, it only works on low-HP bosses that are vulnerable to such a 1-hit-wonder. Oh, and the preparation spending is positively excessive on top of all of that. It's a novelty approach.
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Re: Thougths on Momentum

Postby gjaustin on Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:30 pm

Darvin wrote:Problem is that I converted all my glyphs, and spent all my money on strength potions which I chugged in succession while using up all of my exploration space. The sheer number of resources necessary to pull this off is so impractical that you're better off playing conventionally. As well, it only works on low-HP bosses that are vulnerable to such a 1-hit-wonder. Oh, and the preparation spending is positively excessive on top of all of that. It's a novelty approach.


I'll have to figure out how much damage you can do with a Strength Potion, Reflex Potion, and Avatar Symbol at level 3.
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Re: Thougths on Momentum

Postby Darvin on Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:19 pm

Mmmmm.... add the Trisword and some Tikki Tooki worship to the mix. Wonder just how high we can go...

Let's presume we take it to level 7 (35 base attack)
720 conversion points (+21 from orc)
Trisword (let's say you quaff 18 potions for a total of +36)

That brings your base attack to 91. Now for attack boosts

boosters (+30%)
hp->attack (+20%)
avatar's symbol (+100%)
momentum (+100%)

So that's about 320 damage for your 1-hit wonder, and this is with a reasonable amount of scumming. Hitting 400 should be entirely doable.

As for reflex potion, we really need more research on how it works. Would the avatar's symbol, momentum, or strength potions count on the second hit? I don't think so, but if there's one quirk about this game it's that rules aren't always consistent...
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Re: Thougths on Momentum

Postby The Avatar on Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:50 pm

3 potions is +45? Did they change the tri-sword back to +3 base per quaff.
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Re: Thougths on Momentum

Postby gjaustin on Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:59 pm

Darvin wrote:As for reflex potion, we really need more research on how it works. Would the avatar's symbol, momentum, or strength potions count on the second hit? I don't think so, but if there's one quirk about this game it's that rules aren't always consistent...


That was exactly my thought. I have no idea how much damage it would add.

Well, beyond the 7 from Tri-sword and multipliers...
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Re: Thougths on Momentum

Postby Darvin on Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:23 pm

The Avatar wrote:3 potions is +45? Did they change the tri-sword back to +3 base per quaff.

Sorry, I was thinking of the old value for some reason. It was +3 for a long time.
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