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Re: Mage Plate?

Postby Ara on Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:27 pm

Darvin wrote:Two worsd: retaliates fireball

One (mangled) word: WEYTWUT :D

And if the glyph is not available, at least your health potions won't be wasted in conversions.
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Re: Mage Plate?

Postby Darvin on Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:49 pm

One (mangled) word: WEYTWUT

Slightly more verbose retort: even more scumming to find required components for combo, 100 fewer conversion points (significantly more if playing Transmuter), and 65% reduction in damage dealt per mana spent.

WEYTWUT as a way to get past fireball retaliation just isn't worth it...
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Re: Mage Plate?

Postby The Avatar on Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:03 pm

You should be able to WHUPAZ and melee that form.
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Re: Mage Plate?

Postby Sythion on Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:25 pm

I like mage plate more than crystal ball on all casters, even elves. The benefit from 10 or so extra mp means the potions give a free win vs bosses. It's just a bit harder to catapult, but I find boss fights are more important anyway.

And of course if you need to resort to physical, just sac it.
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Re: Mage Plate?

Postby Gorgon on Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:37 pm

The Avatar wrote:Devs nerfing magic? You can have a 5 mp resist reducing fireball that does 6 damage per level. And then with a Crystal Ball and 30 mp you can get 13 fireballs. That's 780 damage without any potions.


That only applies for fireball users. What I'm trying to say is that the devs are trying to nerf all kinds of magic, while only BURNDAYRAZ is unbalanced. I mean, BLUDTUPOWA is only useful for fireball casters now.
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Re: Mage Plate?

Postby Darvin on Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:45 pm

BLUDTUPOWA still gives you moderate gains when piety farming with Binlor or Mystera, but side from BURNDAYRAZ specialists it's definitely much more useful as 100 CP now.
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Re: Mage Plate?

Postby The Avatar on Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:13 pm

Yeah, the BLUDTUPOWA was an unnecessary nerf. The funny thing is Berserkers are now the best at using it, as its damage is magical.
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Re: Mage Plate?

Postby Darvin on Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:47 pm

Wait, you can reduce BLUDTUPOWA damage with resistances? How about damage reduction? Earthmother and Binlor may have a few choice words about BLUDTUPOWA being dead...
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Re: Mage Plate?

Postby The Avatar on Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:09 am

It does 1 magic damage per level. I didn't even think of DR...
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