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Re: Extending wiki informations

Postby The Avatar on Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:10 am

To whoever started the monk page: I kind of took it over. I filled in all the missing images.
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Re: Extending wiki informations

Postby Darvin on Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:11 am

Filling out the Berserker page. Not filling out info on the Trilling Berserker... given all the talk about the Trisword I sense a nerf incoming.
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Re: Extending wiki informations

Postby Joist on Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:19 am

The tri-sword and the alchemist scroll are the last bastions of hope against non-scumming vicious runs.
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Re: Extending wiki informations

Postby Madness on Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:08 am

Must stop working on the wiki.... must start working on paying stuff....
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Re: Extending wiki informations

Postby Joist on Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:42 am

Yay, I got through a Dragon Isles run and *didn't* forget to keep taking screenshots halfway through.

Madness wrote:Must stop working on the wiki.... must start working on paying stuff....


You really should stop working on the wiki so hard, you'll burn yourself out.
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Re: Extending wiki informations

Postby Joist on Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:40 am

Can someone read this through? I'll write the intro and prep stuff later

http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDu ... agon_Isles


@Darvin: Regarding a tri-sword nerf, here are some calculations regarding this particular build.

Without prep:
Base attack = 50 from level, 5 from Taurog, 15 from Orc assuming you convert every glyph and can squeeze 100 conversion points out of the shops.
Bonus percentage = 20 from Berserker, 50 from boosters, 10 from badge.

Tri-sword current = (50 + 5 + 15 + (3 + 4 + 4 + 5) * 2) * (1 + 0.2 + 0.5 + 0.1) = 183
Tri-sword nerfed = (50 + 5 + 15 + (3 + 4 + 4 + 5) * 1) * (1 + 0.2 + 0.5 + 0.1) = 154
Dwarf Gauntlets = (50 + 5 + 15) * (1 + 0.2 + 0.5 + 0.1 + 0.2) = 140
Conversion Seal = (50 + 5 + 21) * (1 + 0.2 + 0.5 + 0.1) = 136

I just did a run preping the gauntlet, it wasn't too bad. A lot of things went my way (particularly pactmaker and dracul to desecrate) and a lot of things went against me (particularly only 1 of the 5 level 8s and 9s was a magic user). I killed the Matron with my last death protection.

Conversion Seal may be the most practical, you have a chance of a tri-sword or gauntlet turning up in the shops, maybe both and you have a free item slot.

Maybe tri-sword could use a nerf but a lot of builds rely on it *alone* to boost damage. What if tri-sword went back to 3 damage but it ate potions instead of giving a secondary effect to potions.

Thoughts?
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Re: Extending wiki informations

Postby The Avatar on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:28 am

So you get +3 base per level, but it eats a potion if you level up.
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Re: Extending wiki informations

Postby Joist on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:43 am

No, you can "feed it" a potion. Like converting an item, the potion just disappears and you get +3 (or +2 if +3 is still too much) damage.

Would you trade WHUPAZ for +3 damage? A reflex potion? A health potion?
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Re: Extending wiki informations

Postby unentschieden on Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:29 pm

So instead of drinking it raises for converting? Given the low conversion points on potions it could work.
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Re: Extending wiki informations

Postby gjaustin on Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:57 pm

Madness wrote:Guys it's a wiki, please see if you can help directly, btw, I don't have everything unlocked yet, and the little time I can spare I'm trying to work into template development. :/ Sorry if I'm asking too much.


I plan to. It's just that the articles I want to help with (Gorgon, Pactmaker, Taurog) aren't linked up yet, or at least weren't yesterday.

You're doing a great job on the templates, so I don't want to get in your way on those.
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