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Re: Please release the monster classes. They want to be free

Postby Darvin on Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:06 pm

Would be nice if it gave a base attack boost. Maybe a good +6? Make it the elite version of the fine sword like the dragon shield is the elite version of the tower shield?
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Re: Please release the monster classes. They want to be free

Postby The Avatar on Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:10 pm

But the dragon shield is not only twice as effective, it has magic res too. Perhaps 7 base and 20-30%.
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Re: Please release the monster classes. They want to be free

Postby Darvin on Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:13 pm

The dragonshield doesn't have an active effect, the Avatar's Symbol does. A +100% boost on a single attack is a big deal for striker-type characters, particularly if combined with a strength potion. Since the active-use effect already boosts attack bonus, restricting the passive effect to base attack makes sense, and also keeps racial balance for this item under control.
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Re: Please release the monster classes. They want to be free

Postby The Avatar on Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:15 pm

Oh. I thought you wanted to remove the effect.
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Re: Please release the monster classes. They want to be free

Postby Darvin on Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:17 pm

No, I was talking about changing the passive effect. I have no problems with the attack boosting effect. With sufficient popcorn, you can get 2 or even 3 +100% attacks against the boss. It's not the strongest effect in the world, which is why it needs a fairly good passive to go along with it, but I see no need to change it.
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Re: Please release the monster classes. They want to be free

Postby The Avatar on Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:19 pm

Agreed. The current resists are meager and out of place.
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Re: Please release the monster classes. They want to be free

Postby Bloggorus on Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:59 am

Guys I think you might have missed my point. It's not that vicious is impossible, just impossible for ME with my limited patience for silly strats that require perfect play.

I LIKE playing regular dungeons and screwing around all the time, so I was hoping for a way to play monster classes without exploit shenanigans.
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Re: Please release the monster classes. They want to be free

Postby Lujo on Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:37 am

Which brings us back to the "fix the concept of VICIOUS" so that normal people can enjoy the endgame bit.
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Re: Please release the monster classes. They want to be free

Postby Joist on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:05 am

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Re: Please release the monster classes. They want to be free

Postby The Avatar on Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:34 am

Vicious dungeons are only here to catch exploits. By the end they will be nerfed so they are harder than hard, but not broken.
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