Strategy Thread for talking about Strategies

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Re: Strategy Thread for talking about Strategies

Postby Leotamer on Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:44 pm

Fran wrote:
Leotamer wrote:Oh, so I have to do shifting passages... Their is alot I havn't done in the north...


Have you completed the main story at all?
You lack a lot of preps but want to do vicious badly... I don't want to be mean, but maybe you should reconsider the order in which you want to do things.

I have a cylce when it comes to to rouge-likes. I but all my focus into one thing, and after awhile, I will succuss or just fail. If I fail, I will rage for abit, and then just for to something else in the game, and then the rage fueled system continues.
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Re: Strategy Thread for talking about Strategies

Postby The Avatar on Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:59 pm

None of these should be too hard at all, compared to Vicious. If you're even getting close on Vicious these should be fairly easy.
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Re: Strategy Thread for talking about Strategies

Postby Fran on Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:48 pm

Leotamer wrote:
Fran wrote:
Leotamer wrote:Oh, so I have to do shifting passages... Their is alot I havn't done in the north...


Have you completed the main story at all?
You lack a lot of preps but want to do vicious badly... I don't want to be mean, but maybe you should reconsider the order in which you want to do things.

I have a cylce when it comes to to rouge-likes. I but all my focus into one thing, and after awhile, I will succuss or just fail. If I fail, I will rage for abit, and then just for to something else in the game, and then the rage fueled system continues.


That's not the point. You get more gold after you complete the main quest (collect all trophies and beat the tower).
More money means less grind and more vicious. More importantly, you get more skill from beating the other dungeons first.

Vicious is not supposed to be beatable without a good strategy and good preps. By doing other dungeons first, you get both. In fact, the difficulty in DD scales to your growing level of control about the randomness through preps while the randomness stays the same.
Most rogue likes have a different concept. They mostly scale the randomness itself up and there is no control about it. That is the reason why it is possible to beat rogue likes eventually (given enough experience and luck) whereas the endgame of DD will remain hard as hell until you unlock stuff.
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Re: Strategy Thread for talking about Strategies

Postby squirrelnest on Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:23 pm

Holy cow, you can IMAWAL plants! That goes in the strategy thread, right?

I'm overwhelmed.
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Re: Strategy Thread for talking about Strategies

Postby Sidestepper on Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:34 pm

It already is in the strategy thread. I mentioned it in passing when laying out my Earthmother Melee Wizard approach. I'm even thinking about doing an annotation of that little trick.
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Re: Strategy Thread for talking about Strategies

Postby The Avatar on Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:42 am

Please do. It's a cool thing veterans can explore and newbies can learn. The best of both worlds.
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Re: Strategy Thread for talking about Strategies

Postby fall_ark on Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:19 am

I just realized that Binlor essentially doesn't punish you for leveling up in Rock Garden because Golems appearing in the walls account for your wallbreaking piety. O_o

And even when you reach lvl 10 and there are no longer Golem spawn & wallbreaks....It still shows 2 Endless Work piety gain!
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Re: Strategy Thread for talking about Strategies

Postby Leotamer on Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:58 am

I got one good admit, I got so close, I was one hit away and then just run out of stuff to use. Then I got the wrong preps, then I died on the first boss, then I raged alittle and just went Taurog Beresker with a Really Big Sword and Platemail. Who needs logic when you can just crush everyone in name of Taurog.

Edit- Beat the Bersker boss easily, just realize the second boss was Tower of goo*
Edit 2- Second time was Frank, not to bad, Taurog got me though, and I didn't even use my free peity from agnostic collar for a save with force. Found out I know have to do Mamga mines.. I havn't completed mamga mines normal let.
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Re: Strategy Thread for talking about Strategies

Postby The Avatar on Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:15 am

You don't need to do magma mines. Get the goblin trophy from Hobbler's Hold.
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Re: Strategy Thread for talking about Strategies

Postby Leotamer on Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:06 am

Do I have to complete the dungeon the dungeon in order to complete "Did you say loot"? I am going to try one Goblin Tinker with nothing but blackmarket. But I am geting alot of miss clicks, and starting to regret getting rid of my lockered Cracked Soul orb, the dp would be nice right about now.

Edit- Nvm, GG Healthmonster got me though, some long as you always keep one large item, convert it, then buy, you can buy everything you can afford.
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