Help For A Noob Goblin Assassin In Shifting Passages?

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Help For A Noob Goblin Assassin In Shifting Passages?

Postby Nateon on Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:48 pm

I'm having a real hard time with Shifting Passages, and I've been trying to use the Goblin Assassin, but I'm no good with him. I usually level up by killing monsters 2-3 levels higher than me by poisoning them and regening, and by the time I get to level 6, I try to take on the side boss that isn't Evolvia. The problem is, by this time I don't have many black tiles left, and I usually can't survive a hit from the boss, so I cast 2 fireballs, level myself up by killing lower level monsters and converting, then repeat. This obviously doesn't work long, and I find myself at level 8 with the boss still alive (not to mention Evolvia), little to no black tiles left, and no monsters to catapult my levels.

People make it seem so easy on the forums and wiki, but when I try to put the techniques into practice, I get nowhere. I've completed a few hard dungeons with my success with the warlord, but I feel like the warlord has a bit of trouble with the Shifting Passages. I can easily beat the normal dungeons, but some of these hard ones seem to be too difficult.

If anyone has any tips for playing the Goblin Assassin and beating Shifting Passages. Please help me out with some advice!
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Re: Help For A Noob Goblin Assassin In Shifting Passages?

Postby Joist on Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:53 pm

I followed this guide the first time I beat it: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1841&start=8

It should still work now.

I don't have much experience with goblins personally, I usually go with elf as a fireball assasin. Elf + MA to reduce casting costs then try to hit 15 mana and get the fireball fireball poison combo going.
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Re: Help For A Noob Goblin Assassin In Shifting Passages?

Postby Darvin on Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:09 pm

I'll throw up an annotated playthrough of a purist Goblin Assassin on Shifting Passages later tonight.

It sounds to me like you're not leveling up fast enough if you've got the map explored but are only level 6. The Elf Assassin (Crystal Ball / Mystera) that Joist mentions is another very strong combo, though for purist I'd say goblin assassin is the better choice on a short level like this.
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Re: Help For A Noob Goblin Assassin In Shifting Passages?

Postby Nateon on Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:09 pm

I think the problem is that I'm expending too many tiles for my regen. I might try the Elf assassin or the Elf sorcerer. I like the play style of the sorcerer more so than the assassin.

Also, thanks for opting to make a playthrough! They help immensely, and I don't think I've seen any assassin ones around, and it would be great to have a reference to compare my playstyle to.
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Re: Help For A Noob Goblin Assassin In Shifting Passages?

Postby Darvin on Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:35 pm

Here's a goblin assassin run I did on Creeplight Ruins a while back:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1841&start=40#p10173

Note that the current Mystic Balance boon did not exist back then, so I would have converted to Mystera very promptly upon discovering her.
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Re: Help For A Noob Goblin Assassin In Shifting Passages?

Postby Joist on Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:00 pm

Well that was frustrating. You have to use IMAWAL to level up fast enough and then you need to manage to not trap yourself when you start swift handing people. I didn't have ENDISWAL I had to use PISORF. Nightmare.

Doable but I'd still go with elf caster assassin for preference.

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Re: Help For A Noob Goblin Assassin In Shifting Passages?

Postby Darvin on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:13 am

You were faithless there; of course you're going to have trouble without a deity. I just did a dry run as a purist goblin assassin on shifting passages and got parched; my only boon was a single blood swell at the end (got Aequitas as my first boss and found him early, so I had him whittled down by spellcasting by the time my exploration was done, then expended my catapult on Evolvia and finished him with a blood swell and a schadenfreude. Had pactmaker to consensus for more swells as needed). I'll record my next run; hopefully it'll be just as smooth.
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Re: Help For A Noob Goblin Assassin In Shifting Passages?

Postby The Avatar on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:27 am

I think the boss spawning is rigged. You guys keep getting Aequitas, and so do I.
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Re: Help For A Noob Goblin Assassin In Shifting Passages?

Postby Joist on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:29 am

True about the faithless, but I got TT who I couldn't use without triggering all the walls, GG who I don't like to use and Taurog who I couldn't use because I was casting so much.

If I was prepping stuff I would have taken in Binlor, personally.

MORE AQUITAS but yeah, I killed him second because I was combo melee'ing and casting. I couldn't take a hit from him so Evolvia was the easier target earlier.
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Re: Help For A Noob Goblin Assassin In Shifting Passages?

Postby Darvin on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:31 am

I think the boss spawning is rigged. You guys keep getting Aequitas, and so do I.

Nah, I just got Jormungandor. I'm aborting the run though since I found both Mystera and the first boss within a few steps of getting into the dungeon. Too good... much too good... if my luck held out I'm sure I'd have found BLUDTUPOWA within a few more steps.

True about the faithless, but I got TT who I couldn't use without triggering all the walls, GG who I don't like to use and Taurog who I couldn't use because I was casting so much.

If you hadn't used IMAWAL then Tikki Tooki would have been marvellous. With Tikki's Edge and the goblin racial bonus hitting level 10 would be child's play and clearing the hallways trivial. I strongly advise against using IMAWAL on shifting passages unless you have ENDISWAL or knockback.

Otherwise GG and Taurog are pretty much the worst deities an Assassin can possibly pull. Your best option would have been to worship Taurog at the last minute after expending your potions, then use your starting piety to convert to GG and use the remaining piety on protections.
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