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Re: Economic Stability

Postby TigerKnee on Sun May 13, 2012 1:55 am

When did Binlor give piety for using Bysseps? Has it always been there but I didn't notice because Bysseps used to be super terrible or is this recent?
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Re: Economic Stability

Postby The Avatar on Sun May 13, 2012 3:23 am

@Darvin: Yes, but the bosses don't synergies with the class, except in case of the berserker. They should make it a special snake with low damage and high hp, take away tormented one, so the boss can't have mana burn, and make Blahblah do less damage and blink.
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Re: Economic Stability

Postby Darvin on Sun May 13, 2012 3:49 am

TigerKnee wrote:When did Binlor give piety for using Bysseps? Has it always been there but I didn't notice because Bysseps used to be super terrible or is this recent?

This is news to me. Don't know why Binlor would penalize this glyph in particular, especially when he offers a boon that makes it redundant.

BYSSEPS now lets you reduce the physical and magic resistances of the target you're attacking. If you find high-resist bosses early in exploration (especially as Monk) it's entirely possible to have them whittled down to low or no resists.


As to the new class requirements, the only one I take issue with is Monk vs BlahBlah. That's a fairly tough matchup for a beginner and probably a little too steep for an early gateway quest. Others, I'm fine with. Sorcerer can beat Tormented One with spellcasting alone, and Rogue beats Jormungandor pretty easily so long as he can survive one hit. Not concerned with those.
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Re: Economic Stability

Postby Joist on Sun May 13, 2012 3:57 am

I guess the Binlor-Bysseps thing is new. It's 1 piety per cast. Seems a little OP though because with a wizard 1 piety = 1 mana if you spam-attack meat men.

edit: @Darvin no, Binlor gives you piety when you use it.
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Re: Economic Stability

Postby TigerKnee on Sun May 13, 2012 3:58 am

Darvin wrote:This is news to me. Don't know why Binlor would penalize this glyph in particular, especially when he offers a boon that makes it redundant.


I think you misread (or I somehow conveyed information wrongly), he REWARDS you for using Bysseps with like 1 piety per cast.
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Re: Economic Stability

Postby Darvin on Sun May 13, 2012 3:59 am

Interesting; if it's only 1 piety per cast, though, your mana is better spent on ENDISWAL anyways. Still, free piety if you're using BYSSEPS.
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Re: Economic Stability

Postby Joist on Sun May 13, 2012 4:08 am

Not really, BYSSEPS is effectively renewable if you use a low level meatman to tank. Walls are better spent on boons.

Also a crystal ball will refund your BYSSEPS mana.
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Re: Economic Stability

Postby Darvin on Sun May 13, 2012 4:13 am

I thought crystal ball requires a 3 MP threshold to activate?

I generally convert out of Binlor and don't stick with him through the entire dungeon, so I seldom run into wall issues with him.
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Re: Economic Stability

Postby TigerKnee on Sun May 13, 2012 5:20 am

Yeah, it's a nice gimmick but I don't see it being something to change your Binlor strategy around. Even for a Wizard, breaking a wall gives piety at a 1 to 1 cost/ratio and for every other non-Wizard classes, the piety ratio is WAY worse for Bysseps.
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Re: Economic Stability

Postby Kuranes on Sun May 13, 2012 10:01 am

So in the light of this recent update, will anyone care to elaborate how to unlock each bank level?
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