Glowing Guardian Poll

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Do you like the new Glowing Guardian or the old Glowing Guardian

New
2
13%
Both
1
6%
Old
12
75%
Unsure
1
6%
 
Total votes : 16

Re: Glowing Guardian Poll

Postby Sidestepper on Wed May 16, 2012 7:52 pm

I don't think that people literally want the old GG back, they just want the old theme back, and they want his strictures to not conflict with his boons. Darvin has floated a proposition that accomplishes this, and several other solutions are surely possible.
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Re: Glowing Guardian Poll

Postby booooooze on Thu May 17, 2012 11:09 pm

There's no pleasing you people.

If something works well, it needs to be nerfed.

If something doesn't work well, it needs to be buffed/changed/eliminated.


Before you rant at me (looking at you, Lujo, though I still have you on ignore), I'm just kidding.

Mostly.
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Re: Glowing Guardian Poll

Postby Darvin on Thu May 17, 2012 11:16 pm

All we expect is complete and total perfection. Is that really too much to ask?
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Re: Glowing Guardian Poll

Postby TigerKnee on Fri May 18, 2012 3:11 am

Well, I don't think I've seen anyone whine about Fine Sword yet...

(Although they did went and gave it an unnecessary nerf just so that Taurog could look better)
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Re: Glowing Guardian Poll

Postby Darvin on Fri May 18, 2012 3:48 am

Fact is, fine sword is still a top-notch item at +4. There's so little competition for base attack that it still shines, and seeing as the trisword and orc aren't nearly as powerful this version it basically stands alone.

You bring up a good point, though. We haven't whined about the bread-and-butter items nearly enough.
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Re: Glowing Guardian Poll

Postby Joist on Fri May 18, 2012 5:47 am

I think it's because the default items are decent but not OP.

Health Necklace - I buy it sometimes if I need to be able to tank a hit from a boss. Good for final battles since it gives potions an extra kick, good for Vamps, Priests, anyone with resists etc.

Mana Necklace - Great for casters, nuff said

Troll Heart - Sometimes buy if I find it early on and I'm not expecting to use my gold for anything else.

Phys resist shield - +10% Phys Resist = yes please on any resist char or vamp

Fine Sword - Sometimes buy. It's cheaper than a Tri-Sword if you only have a couple of pots or limited gold. If you are saving pots for the final boss then the fine sword is often better than tri-sword for most of the dungeon.

Is that all the items?
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Re: Glowing Guardian Poll

Postby Darvin on Fri May 18, 2012 6:17 am

There's also Bloody Sigil, Badge of Honour and Spoon
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Re: Glowing Guardian Poll

Postby Joist on Fri May 18, 2012 7:58 am

Ah, thanks for reminding me.

Bloody sigil - cheap conversion points, and I've actually used it before when I needed the +max health to tank boss hits

Spoon - Excellent item. Better than the Fine Sword imo.

Badge - Actually this one I haven't bought in a long while. Not sure why. I think bonus damage is more easily available than +base damage. The extra death protection is nice but it's a one time deal.
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Re: Glowing Guardian Poll

Postby gjaustin on Fri May 18, 2012 1:38 pm

I'll complain about Fine Sword! :)

Like Darvin said, it's still the best choice for base attack with no hoops to jump through. I keep hoping for another item that provides base attack. There even are a few in the game (Yin and Yang's Swords), but we can't locker them :(
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Re: Glowing Guardian Poll

Postby Darvin on Fri May 18, 2012 3:47 pm

I'd actually like the Avatar's Symbol to lose its 9% resists and get base attack instead. Something like +6 to make it the "improved" version of the fine sword as the dragonshield is the "improved" version of the tower shield.

Ying/Yang swords and Draco's Heart should definitely be lockerable.
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