I'm noob... and i'm stuck!

[tapif]

Hi guys,

i just bought the beta version of the game, but i previously played the alpha version last year, so i know a bit how to play.
(i had unlocked and finished the normal dungeons will all tier 3 classes).

The problem is... i find this game way harder! I finished like 2 dungeons with the fighter, but i can't finish them with the mage or the thief, i'm always stuck to these 900hp super meat boy, or 1 hit KO magicians, and they are really glyph dependant!

I can't unlock dwarves/halflings calss cause i need money (i have the forge and the shops unlocked).


Do you know which dungeon i should try first to get some more stuff? Or to unlock tier 2 classes?

Thank you very much,

Regards,

[Darvin]

Reason it feels harder is because you have to unlock the deities and shops, whereas these were available from the start in the alpha. I'll create a new account and see if I can add some annotated playthroughs to demonstrate basic tactics to win without shops or deities at your disposal.

Your best approach with gods and shops unavailable is to focus on a level-up catapult. Leave as many low-level monsters alive as possible, then smack them down to level-up and gain a full heal.

[tapif]

Yeah, its going better now that i got the glowing guardian and some shops. I finished the tundra with the priest so i got 500g to unlock the halflings, so now, rogues and priest will be maybe a bit more efficient!

I usually go fight a boss just before reaching the next level, so that i can be restored during the fight but i never win two levels during the battle, is it supposed to be a common thing?

But i'm pretty sure bosses are way more difficult compared to the alpha version. This Mega meat man is a huge pain!

Maybe because we were also unlocking the ennemies in the alpha version...

[Darvin]

[The Avatar]

Yeah, it's really annoying. I started a new profile and I end up having to grind. Since you need tier two classes to unlock hard dungeons and they now cost a lot more you end up stuck early game.


Also, you end up getting two levels? I usually get 1 level up and still easily finish feeling parched in early dungeons. Then again I'm considered a vet, so that's normal.

[TigerKnee]

Super Meat Man tends to stymie newbies even in the original Alpha. The trick is to start relatively early and regen-fight the guy (it's not too hard to out-damage him).

That's all I have to add.

[Nandrew]

[tapif]

I managed to beat my first meat man yesterday so, it is doable, but i had a lot of favour from glowing guardian, and shops available.

Without these two features, it is far more difficult to beat them

[Darvin]

Meat Men are certainly beatable without shops or the GG; I took down SMM several times yesterday when playing around with a new kingdom. The key is leveraging regeneration. Put simply, Meat Men regenerate at the same pace as any monster despite their massive hit point total, and if you're a high enough level (7 is usually sufficient on the early dungeons) you can just hit them and then go back to heal by exploration.

I definitely have to say that unlocking Tikki Tooki is top priority for an early kingdom (by the way, I quite like his new subdungeon). He's great for accruing gold and his poison attack boon is invaluable, and once you get the Assassin class you're all but home-clear. Assassins are by far the best class for purist runs, greatly reducing your dungeon-run costs.

[Nandrew]