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Re: Sassy Mutations

Postby Nandrew on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:22 pm

Abraxas wrote:I believe I had seen people mentioning how the flat +2 HP was too weak/trivial. I can't remember if there was ever a dev response, but the impression I get is that after it was brought up, everyone just sort of assumed it was working as intended.


Hmm. That sounds like a lull in our involvement. Absolutely *not* what had been intended. :)
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Re: Sassy Mutations

Postby TigerKnee on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:24 pm

Well, that was its exact stats in the Alpha I think so I'm not surprised people thought it was intended.
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Re: Sassy Mutations

Postby Nandrew on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:30 pm

In the alpha, too?

God, this mistake goes way deep.
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Re: Sassy Mutations

Postby Lujo on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:44 pm

Well it did always feel rather silly, +20% attack and.. +2 HP. For that much gold? Really?

So, what's it supposed/going to be? Per level or per level up?

And, is it working now, or is it just that the tooltip is wrong?
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Re: Sassy Mutations

Postby fall_ark on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:53 pm

Lujo wrote:Whait, what?

+2 HP per level or level up?


On level up.

Good prep for Monk....if you choose not to prep Dragon Shield, I guess.
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Re: Sassy Mutations

Postby gjaustin on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:55 pm

Nandrew wrote:
Abraxas wrote:I believe I had seen people mentioning how the flat +2 HP was too weak/trivial. I can't remember if there was ever a dev response, but the impression I get is that after it was brought up, everyone just sort of assumed it was working as intended.


Hmm. That sounds like a lull in our involvement. Absolutely *not* what had been intended. :)


We just thought it was a crappy item, like all the other junk* clogging up our shops :)

That said, I always thought it was weird that the Elven Boots gave the scaling +2 MP and Dwarven** Gauntlets gave the flat +2 HP.

* Before the massive item reworks
** Someone on the dev team is just jealous of Gimli's beard
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Re: Sassy Mutations

Postby Nandrew on Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:02 pm

Someone on the dev team HAS Gimli's beard.
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Re: Sassy Mutations

Postby Darvin on Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:38 pm

Okay, maybe this is a bit late in the week, but my thoughts on Assassin:

He's really been shoe-horned into the role of caster-assassin now. The nerf has hit hybrids and melee assassins hardest, while leaving the most powerful build more or less alone. Lowering the attack power of a class that already had mediocre presence in melee combat just doesn't seem like the way to go, and I'd prefer to address him through other means.
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Re: Sassy Mutations

Postby Nandrew on Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:42 pm

We're giving him a better swing on the poison damage bonus (as opposed to just "returning to normal"). Dwarf Assassins may still cry into their pillows at night, but the harder-hitting hybrids should have a fighting chance again, even if they're not amazing.
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Re: Sassy Mutations

Postby fall_ark on Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:10 am

Nandrew wrote:We're giving him a better swing on the poison damage bonus (as opposed to just "returning to normal"). Dwarf Assassins may still cry into their pillows at night, but the harder-hitting hybrids should have a fighting chance again, even if they're not amazing.


Is his increasing impotence against undead work as intended or merely a byproduct though?
It just feels that the design philosophy isn't consistent - all other tier 3 classes are better with their signature glyph, but only Assassins suffer a weakness (and it will be linked to the glyph). Hell before Corrosion I sometimes convert APHEELSIK at the beginning just for the heck of it. If the baseline is that Assassin can't live without poison then that's not very good design IMHO.
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