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Re: Highest Number of Badges in one run

Postby The Avatar on Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:50 pm

Faithless does not belong below purist. I can get more resources out of Drac or Tiki alone. I say
Warmonger/Hoarder: 5 pts
Purist/Faithless: 4 pts
Unstoppable/Parches: 3 pts
Ding! Max: 2 pts
Specialist/Cheeky: 1 pt

As for other possible scoring aspects (remember, the endscreen has extra stats):
1 pt per 5 bonus exp
-1 pt per 25 wasted tiles
-1 per used other potion

Also, we need some way to score the different random bosses.

Just a couple suggestions.
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Re: Highest Number of Badges in one run

Postby Sidestepper on Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:51 pm

My attempts at this were all with a Berserker in the Western Forest. What you are hoping for is a pile of strategically placed Warlocks, Dragons, and Wraiths. It might be doable with a strategic unlock of monster types. My dream list would be Dragons, Wraiths, Goats, Gorgons. You would also have to have Zombies, Meatmen, Goblins and Warlocks because those are the starting set. I don't remember the unlock order, but I doubt I could get that exact list without also unlocking Goo Blobs or some other monster that I don't really want.
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Re: Highest Number of Badges in one run

Postby gjaustin on Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:56 pm

Yeah, I can get behind Darvin's new list.

I'd still much rather do Warmonger than Hoarder or Purist. And you can't forget that doing Warmonger means you'll get Specialist.


Avatar - I strongly disagree on Faithless being on the same level as Purist. Half the time I'll pick it up just because I don't feel like dealing with any restrictions.
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Re: Highest Number of Badges in one run

Postby Darvin on Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:14 pm

Well, at least we all seem to agree regarding hoarder and the three "easy" badges at the bottom and that hoarder belongs on top. Avatar didn't put miser in his list, but otherwise the only difference between his list and mine is that he values faithless a little higher. I think we're closing in on a scoring mechanism.

As for other possible scoring aspects (remember, the endscreen has extra stats):
1 pt per 5 bonus exp
-1 pt per 25 wasted tiles
-1 per used other potion

I wouldn't want to make value judgments on the first two. Bonus XP, for all the emphasis we place upon it, is a means to an end and not the goal itself (and really, the Ding! Max badge already gives it some scoring presence). I don't want to make a value-judgment on wasted tiles, especially since the most likely cause of wasted tiles is not being able to locate a glyph during early exploration. "Other potions" are already effectively penalized since they will disqualify you from either purist or miser, which are worth at least 3 points each.

I don't remember the unlock order, but I doubt I could get that exact list without also unlocking Goo Blobs or some other monster that I don't really want.

Goo Blobs come from the Warlord, Bandits come from the Assassin, Dragonspawn come from the Paladin, and Golems from the Bloodmage. Wraiths from the Berserker, Gorgons from the Rogue, Serpents from the Monk, and Goats from the Sorcerer.

I think this strategic unlock is totally doable.

I'd still much rather do Warmonger than Hoarder or Purist. And you can't forget that doing Warmonger means you'll get Specialist.

And I'd much rather do Hoarder/Purist together than Warmonger. Preference, I suppose.

Specialist and Cheeky are pretty damn easy. I was debating whether to make them worth half a point each <_<
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Re: Highest Number of Badges in one run

Postby Lujo on Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:16 pm

Really, Warmonger that high?

It's much more situational, and with preps it's laughably easy wherever it's doable at all. Really.

Unless we're looking to stack badges where it overrules purist and parched.

If not, I'd personally rank feeling parched as the PITA badge, with warmonger, if shooting for it right at the bottom. Faithless also influences having a shot at other badges. Only place I had problems with Warmonger was Magma Mines and maybe someplace I don't remember right now, otherwise it's the easiest besides cheeky IMO.
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Re: Highest Number of Badges in one run

Postby Darvin on Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:23 pm

It's much more situational, and with preps it's laughably easy wherever it's doable at all. Really.

Unless we're looking to stack badges where it overrules purist.

Yeah, you get points based on the totals of all your badges combined in a single run. I'm aware that if you're going all-in just for the one badge that it can be grabbed reliably, but there are 30 points up for grab and Warmonger is only worth 5 of them. While Warmonger is the most valuable badge, it's the most likely to preclude you from grabbing other badges. If you prepare Taurog, for instance, you've just disqualified yourself for 6 potential points for purist and faithless in order to pursue the 5 points of warmonger. I think it's well-priced where it is.
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Re: Highest Number of Badges in one run

Postby gjaustin on Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:23 pm

Warmonger is easy on Magma Mines as long as you sacrifice Purist for Whrgarbl.

Alternatively, you can sacrifice Miser or Faithless if you're willing to depend on luck.
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Re: Highest Number of Badges in one run

Postby Darvin on Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:37 pm

The best way to resolve this would actually be to run the challenge and see which medals end up in the top-scoring sets. If warmonger is over-represented near the top, then it probably has been assigned too many points. So, let me just lay out the formal rules before I branch off into a new thread:

Dungeon of the Day (or so) Scoring Challenge
At 8:00 PM Pacific time (4:00 AM GMT), I will roll a 12-sided die in order to select a dungeon at random from the following list of directional dungeons:

Rock Garden (1), Creeplight Ruins (2), Hexx Ruins (3), Havensdale Bridge (4), Cursed Oasis (5), Berserker Camp (6), Slime Pit (7), Magma Mines (8), Shifting Passages (9), Hard Halls of Steel (10), Ick Swamp (11), or Labyrinth (12)

I will immediately post my roll and open the competition. Any DD player can then submit a screenshot showing a successful run. They will then be awarded points based on their medals based on the scoring below:

Warmonger and Hoarder = 5 points each
Purist = 4 points
Faithless, Unstoppable, Parched and Miser = 3 points each
Ding! Max = 2 points
Specialist and Cheeky = 1 point each

The contest ends as soon as the devs post their Friday update (so we don't run across more than one game version), and the highest-scoring user at the time is declared the winner. Users may submit as many entries as they like, but only the highest-scoring will be counted.

^ rules above look okay?
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Re: Highest Number of Badges in one run

Postby The Avatar on Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:42 pm

Nice! You should make an individual thread for this.

Also, there are no race/class restrictions?
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Re: Highest Number of Badges in one run

Postby Darvin on Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:44 pm

The Avatar wrote:Nice! You should make an individual thread for this.

Also, there are no race/class restrictions?


I think for the first run we'll do "anything goes", but if it's successful we'll do a "round 2" with different restrictions.

I've also clarified the rules that you can submit as many runs as you like and the best one one will be counted.
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