by Lujo on Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:03 pm
Well, the "you can locker subdungeon items" policy is new as far as I'm concerned. I think I remember being explicitly told about the policy being "you can't locker subdungeon items" back during the martyr wraps disscusions a while ago (status of Sticky Stick in relation to the wraps was being thrown around and one of the dev's interrupted). Is and was certanly true for Draco's heart. Well thank you for clearing the situation up, guys.
Also the fact that the banker subdungeon spanwns anywhere in the east. For me it didn't by chance, I guess, and did 3 times in a row or something thereabouts while doing the Berserker Camp quest.
However, the state of things being inconsistent, with some subdungeon items being lockerable and some not, as it were, I still think I'm allowed to be puzzled as to why this particular one is lockerable. It made berserker camp really easy on the "I can fish for ideal kills without having to waste blackspace" grounds, and when I applied it (yes, it's apparently a Mas09 ledger) to Magma Mines, the effect seemed ludicrously powerfull.
My assesment of it's power as excessive comes from the fact that I could rather easily estimate how much blackspace it saved, and feel the ease with which I found the best available opponents at any point without the need to explore. The gold cost on use was negligable, and the only thing it seemed balanced by was the lack of picked up powerups and revealed shops that comes from not exploring enough. The fact the monsters can cover ledges ment I had to simply use it again untill nothing covered the troublesome tile, or it moved some popcorn over it.
Now, the power of this item when combined with blackspace-centric strategies is up there with the VICIOUS stuff, but it was also beneficial to a rogue. I can also see it being benficial to spellcasters for a big boost of a "between fights exporation healing". And seeing how Draco's Heart wasn't lockerable (on excessive power grounds?), and this was (even though it's potentially more powerfull AND easy to obtain), signalled that something was wrong.
I'm sorry for being unclear, and I actually find both of your guys involvement a great boon to my playtesting efforts, and if all this sounds excessively annoying - I have a terrible personallity, and I'm often sorry for being who I am. But I am in general a well intentioned and a driven person, and if I've been unclear, vague or dramatic about any other point I've made in this thread but someone was interested in what I ment enough (and doesn't want to wait for a concise and to the point writeup) I'll be happy to do my best to clarify.
I also whish someone would test that ledger, for real. I'm sure that the possibility of it being ludicrous is huge, but I really don't want to be the one going around asking for nerfs because I ran out of credit with the devs a long time ago. And especially as I'm unsure how much of the item's power comes from being handled by a megavet, if I may number myself among those.
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Lujo on Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I almost got pwned by Shifty Brickwork!