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IMAWAL fun facts

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:10 pm
by FDru
Killing cursed enemies with IMAWAL doesn't give you curse stacks. It also removes curse stacks. It can also be used to kill cursed enemies to remove curses :lol:

After a few "accidental" dings I also realized that the 1 bonus exp from slowed enemies is still given if you kill an enemy with IMAWAL.

IMAWAL can be used to create walls from THIN AIR (useful for PISORFing, I suppose?)

Re: IMAWAL fun facts

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:14 pm
by Lujo
It also helps quite a bit if you want to level fast - consistent use loses you some popcorn unless it's slowed (which then gives 1 XP you'd get anyway), but get's you those levels nicely.

It doesn't mesh with midfight level ups too well though.

Also, curse removal is a big pro, and curse MANAGEMENT can be really handy in CO. And, yes, stoning curse bearers doesn't get you cursed ^^

Re: IMAWAL fun facts

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:26 pm
by paplaukes
How does IMAWAL remove curse stacks? Do you have to stone an enemy? Is creating a wall enough?

Re: IMAWAL fun facts

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:30 pm
by FDru
paplaukes wrote:How does IMAWAL remove curse stacks? Do you have to stone an enemy? Is creating a wall enough?


I thought I tested that, then I remembered that I tested it against an Eel Root :roll:

Re: IMAWAL fun facts

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:16 pm
by Blovski
Does stoning undead lose you Drac piety? I don't think it does but could be wrong.

Re: IMAWAL fun facts

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:22 pm
by Lujo
You have to stone an enemy and it removes one stack of curse.

One thing to remember - if you can recognize the siuation where it's good - it's great.

It's really usefull if you're going to explore, or explore between your kills. This means you're picking kills anyway, and the kills you pick will genearaly be higher level enemies so the bonus gets sufficent. If you're going to spam LEMISI or B2P (say, to reveal wraiths) it's a nice option for using up extra mana. Recognizing monsters you can "give up" such as curse bearers, or high level illusions, animated armors or wakening/corrosion guys can also provide you with suitable IMAWAL targets (if you don't care about unstoppable). It's also good with glyph focused builds that want the least ammount of kills to have more ding fodder for later.

Re: IMAWAL fun facts

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:30 pm
by paplaukes
All I can think of is - so you can just IMAWAL out of curses in CO?! Plenty of plants in curseworld.

Re: IMAWAL fun facts

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:02 pm
by Lujo
paplaukes wrote:All I can think of is - so you can just IMAWAL out of curses in CO?! Plenty of plants in curseworld.


Mhm :) Except sometimes you don't WANT to get out immidiately simply beacue you can't kill the shades in the real world, so you start out killing bandits (who are easy fodder for levels) and get yourself well and cursed - after exploring a little bit to pick at least a few thigs up. You manage curses by alternatively stoning plants and killing them to keep cursed - stoning also helps with leveling. Then you clear the curse by kiling shades and other stuff, pick up everything you explored in the curse world, get cursed again, kill the shade, grab the charm and kill the dragon.

One more use of IMAWAL - if you find it and ENDISWALL early with the Sorceror, Bloodmage or anyone who wants to go around looking for powerups - you can stone stuff and ndiswall immediately to grab a gold pice. Escpecially if farming Mysterea or Binlor piety, and or if you have plants around. I do this on quest/pqi/badgehunting runs in sub-vicious.

Re: IMAWAL fun facts

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:13 pm
by Naoya
Whoa, didn't knew IMAWALL had so much Uses, always converted it on sight .... guess you never stop to learn.

Re: IMAWAL fun facts

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:40 pm
by Sidestepper
Well, you can't remove curse by bricking plants. The curse wipe fails when IMAWAL is used on anything with the No Experience trait.

Earthmother works well on Cursed Oasis. Vineform is hampered by all the curses but it's worth 2-3 shots for the health alone. The pre-existing plants mean that you don't have to waste popcorn to get the xp boost from IMAWAL, and they also give you lots of Clearance fuel for dealing with the Cursed Shade. Entanglement prevents blink from working and removes some of the gambling element involved in attacking shades. But the real star is Greenblood, which gives you near-perfect control over which layer you occupy.

And that isn't even touching conversion antics.