Undead monsters

[FDru]

Take 2x physical damage from priest melee attacks
Immune to poison
Killing them pisses off Dracul and pleases Glowing Guardian

Am I missing anything?

[The Avatar]

Nope. That's all that undead means.

[Abraxas]

Can't be used for Absolution.

[FDru]

Can't be used for Absolution.

Forgot about that one.

So, yeah, I was thinking that "Peppers the Dog" turning an enemy undead was a bit of a useless effect. I guess it kind of is... unless you're a priest.

Should undead have some additional general effect other than "I'm gonna annoy you by being immune to poison"? Maybe some kind of weakness?

[gjaustin]

Take 2x physical damage from priest melee attacks
Immune to poison
Killing them pisses off Dracul and pleases Glowing Guardian

Am I missing anything?

It's not quite double damage. It's actually +100% damage.

It sounds like a nitpick, but it's actually a fairly big difference!

[paplaukes]

Doesn't Peppers the Dog also give attack power? I vaguely remember that subdungeon giving something useful.
gjaustin: could you explain how is that damage calculated then, please? It seemed the extra damage isn't increased by attack power?

[FDru]

It's not quite double damage. It's actually +100% damage.

It sounds like a nitpick, but it's actually a fairly big difference!

Wait, so it only multiplies base damage?

Doesn't Peppers the Dog also give attack power? I vaguely remember that subdungeon giving something useful.
gjaustin: could you explain how is that damage calculated then, please? It seemed the extra damage isn't increased by attack power?

Yeah the dog gives +10% attack (but is a large item so it kind of sucks). When consumed it turns the next enemy you attack into undead.

But I wasn't really trying to scrutinize the item itself (which is fine in context since the subdungeon has several things in it), it just got me thinking about the "Undead" status overall.

[The Avatar]

He gives you 10% bonus to your next attack.

Okay, here's how the +100% works: Your attack is made of two stats, base damage and attack percent. Your base is five per level. Your attack adds X extra % of your base on top. Here's an example: A level 2 priest with 3 attack boosters (10 base and 30% attack bonus) will do 13 damage to normal monsters. Against undead he does an extra 10 damage, or 23, because the extra 100% applies only to your base.

[q 3]

It might not be a bad idea if "undead" status mattered more for more things. Maybe have a weapon or two that does extra damage (or less damage) against undead. Maybe burning maxes out instantly against undead (they're highly flammable!). Maybe Swift Hands doesn't work against undead (no vital points, and it's kind of a silly broken ability anyway - but Assassins would need some minor buff elsewhere to compensate).

[Bloggorus]

Its pretty much a concise way of saying, 'here's a tough enemy to beat'.