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How to burn & poison?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:19 am
by Kuranes
I have recently had some problems understanding the new poison and the regeneration penalty on burning, would anyone care to explain them to me? :|

I understand how burning stacks (for purposes of damage) works, and I had no problem with the old poison either. I just feel there is some untapped potential in there, since I havent completely understood to use them yet.

Re: How to burn & poison?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:38 am
by FDru
Burning lowers regen by the listed amount, so extends the life of poison (since poison just "blocks" a specific amount of total health regen).

Best way to use them both is to make sure you're able to burn the enemy before you go revealing black space. The Whaargarbl is really nice with poison strategies since your autoattacks won't drop the burning stacks.

Re: How to burn & poison?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:00 am
by Kuranes
Ah. Yeah I can see that poison blocks regeneration from tiles. While burning prevents nummerical values equal to stacks, right?

Re: How to burn & poison?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:26 am
by FDru
Exactly right.

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Re: How to burn & poison?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:45 am
by Kuranes
Thanks! I am very happy that you have decided to enlighten me in this endavour

Re: How to burn & poison?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:22 am
by dislekcia
Nope, a burning monster simply regenerates as though it were 1 level lower than it is, no matter how many stacks of burning are on it.

Re: How to burn & poison?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:56 am
by Kuranes
Okay! Thanks for clearing that up. That also makes Whurrgarbl more applicable for regeneration halting.
Also, just to be sure: monsters regenerate health equal to their level right?

Re: How to burn & poison?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:02 pm
by Naoya
Yup, unless they have fast Regen. Fast Regen doubles their regen.

Funfact: Burning stops the regenration of lv 1 monsters, and makes their poison have infinite duration.

Re: How to burn & poison?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:07 pm
by FDru
Naoya wrote:Funfact: Burning stops the regenration of lv 1 monsters, and makes their poison have infinite duration.


Yeah, that can be pretty annoying. I want to fireball an enemy to build MA piety or something, then I go to regen and it doesn't regen. And then there's nothing you can do that won't kill it...

Also, a year later and I still don't know how burning works.. lol

Re: How to burn & poison?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:27 pm
by Naoya
Oh yeah, that happened quite a few times to me as well.

Burning is pretty complex. The glyph itself only tells you that it slows regenration (not by how much, however). The additional damage per stack only gets mentioned by the Whurgarbl buff. That is actually pretty weird... perhaps we need a puzzle for Burndayraz.