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Postby squirrelnest on Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:50 pm

So, TT is a fine god. I think. I like him.

I always use him exactly the same way, right at the end of the map. Save all my popcorn, convert in, buy piety with gold then one or two stacks of xp gain, eat popcorn, then grab some reflex pots.

I can't think of any reason that I'd rather take him early. Anyone know what I'm missing, or is he a late game only grab for you too?
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Re: TT and me

Postby Sidestepper on Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:52 pm

The other way is pick him up at level 2 or 3 and take as many hits of Tikki's Edge as possible. You'll have to burn a ton of popcorn to do it, but it works out all right. This is amazing when done with an Assassin, who can basically clear any VICIOUS map by following this strategy.
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Re: TT and me

Postby booooooze on Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:04 pm

What Sidestepper said.

I'll gladly take him at 2. He gives a ton of piety, a ton of gold, a ton of experience, half the dodge chance of being a rogue, poison for fun and more piety, GETINDARE, and saves exploration because as soon as you get 2 levels of Tiki's Edge you get the same XP bonus for killing something one lvl below you as you do for killing something one lvl above you. And then you can dump leftover piety into dodge/reflex pots or your inevitable conversion to Dracul.

It's like the balanced dagger: why kill something one lvl higher than you for a +2XP bonus when you can wait til you level up, kill it more easily, and get +3XP?

Goblin Tiki Assassins can mop up Vicious token dungeons with ease. (I mean, any goblin assassin can, but the Tiki goblin assassin gets super powers)
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Re: TT and me

Postby Darvin on Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:10 pm

Rogues, Berserkers, and Crusaders make good "early" TT worshippers because they can end their fights with relatively few hits, incurring little piety loss. Berserkers and Crusaders also benefit enormously from GETINDARE. Paladins also benefit enormously from early TT worship, because they can ignore his penalties whenever they get into a slug-fest and just shrug it off while staying at 0 piety.

On the end-game spiking side, Fighters and Assassins are the obvious combos, but anyone with a good bowl of popcorn and sharp enough teeth to munch it with will enjoy Tikki Tooki. Warlords are super-tricky with TT, but if you can get your hands on some indulgences for death protection they are positively amazing with him.
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Re: TT and me

Postby booooooze on Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:39 pm

For fun, my next flaming dungeon was Cursed Oasis. Not a Vicious, to be sure, but an annoying dungeon, for me. I decided to prep a TT Goblin Assassin and give it a run with just TT. Worshiped at lvl 1, got lucky with an early WEYTWUT got lucky again with zombie gold subdungeon, but still finished off the boss with almost half the map unexplored. Note the 155 bonus XP with an average lvl diff of -2.45 (no Yendor in there).

Early TT worship is glorious.

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Re: TT and me

Postby Darvin on Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:42 pm

Nice find there with Zombie Money.
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Re: TT and me

Postby dislekcia on Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:01 am

Early TT is also a great way to equip GETINDARE fast. I'm probably one of the few players who actually likes Tikki's poison now... I think the stacking poison just doesn't feel as OP as the old implementation, but it's a great way to grab high level kills if you've got fireball and thus increase the size of your popcorn bowl.
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Re: TT and me

Postby Naoya on Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:54 am

Personally, I seldom worship him early - mainly due to having a habit where I just whack things to see if I can kill them when I'm too lazy to do the math, and Tikki doesn't really like that.
Except with Paladins, who don't really care. TT Paladin is fun.


booooooze wrote:It's like the balanced dagger: why kill something one lvl higher than you for a +2XP bonus when you can wait til you level up, kill it more easily, and get +3XP?


On that matter: Has anyone tried TT with a balanced dagger? Its fun, especially if you play a fighter and manage to get IMAWAL.

The only boon I never got friendly with though was poison. Not much of a regenfighter, and I never quite got how to use it on him...
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Re: TT and me

Postby The Avatar on Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:32 am

Yeah, poison's only good if you convert out. I like early TT (because I LOVE GETINDARE), and Tiki's Edge leves you with more overall popcorn for even more mid-fight level ups, piety and exp. It combos powerfully with itself.

I don't know about balanced dagger, but the potential is enourmous.
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Re: TT and me

Postby Lujo on Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:24 am

dislekcia wrote:I'm probably one of the few players who actually likes Tikki's poison now... I think the stacking poison just doesn't feel as OP as the old implementation, but it's a great way to grab high level kills if you've got fireball and thus increase the size of your popcorn bowl.


I'm a fan too, obviously, but I think you're not so lonely in this regard. I'm sure there's more people who've experienced both who love the fact that you don't have to pay attention to sequencing with the way it works now (with all sources).

And as for early TT worship, I'm a bit amazed noone mentioned the fighter. :shock: Especially a fighter with Wonnafyt. It can get beyond silly, even in vicious - popcorn bowling with a slowing glyph gives TT piety, and killing slowed monsters with a fighter allready has you at +2 XP per kill, one level of Tikki's edge makes it +3, and you can take it all the way to 6 sometimes. If you score a "monster zoo" subdungeon of some sort it's lolworthy.

Also - Bloodmage. He munches on popcorn anyway for the bloodpools to help fireball stuff with B2P. Early TT gives him a getindare for a free finishing blow strike when he has no health (precast) and gets him levels faster.

EDIT: I did a little editing on the wiki page, there were mistakes.
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