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Re: Gold Star Stickers

Postby Lujo on Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:22 pm

The thing with cheeky is that it's very, very easy on a regular run, but can be a true pain in the behind on PQI runs or specfic runs. There's maps out there that make looking for an "easy" level 2 guy to kill a tricky proposition that ends up biting you in the ass (vicious maps can really be like that), and it takes concessions you're not used to having to make. Weird but true.

Also, the badge made me laugh out loud. It's impossibly crude and could be the illustration for the TV Tropes page for "Refuge in Audacity", but I was looking really carefully at the ones which didn't make sense to me and started from the right for some reason and I took a long hard look at it. It's like wtf is this, hmmm, no clue, wtf is this supposed to be, hmmm, wtf is... omgLOL :D
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Re: Gold Star Stickers

Postby The Avatar on Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:56 pm

Specialist use to be kill all bosses using one type of damage, but now that you can't reduce the resists of bosses in magma mines it is only kill the LAST boss with only one damage type.

Killing no same level monsters would be a bit on the too hard side. How about get a 2 (or maybe 3) level higher kill that is not the boss. Harder, but not so easy to be gotten every time.
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Re: Gold Star Stickers

Postby Darvin on Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:55 pm

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Re: Gold Star Stickers

Postby The Avatar on Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:21 pm

Agreed. As soon as you are trying to get it it's a joke. Also, that would make it possible to do my favorite trickshot run, the reverse magma mines specialist (Herp, the tougher of the two bodyguards, then the other, and you have to get specialist). That was actually one of my favorite runs...
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Re: Gold Star Stickers

Postby TheSchachter on Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:32 am

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Re: Gold Star Stickers

Postby Lujo on Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:00 pm

Agree with the Snatcher, what he sayes makes sense.

Also, while many pros will go out of their way to preserve popcorn and religiously avoid killing lvl1 monsters I can think of at least a few cases where I kill them straight out and consider it a good move. I distinclty remember several cases where I managed to arse up, pun unintended, the cheeky badge of all things even if I was intent on getting it bundled with others.

1) Labyrinths:

a) Maps with "Dragon Isles" layout, and other labyrinths.
b) Grimm's Grotto.
c) Maps with bloody stupid monster rosters which spawn stuff I don't want to tackle at lvl1 as my lvl2 monsters.
d) Maps with Vicious Token enabled and maps various vicious maps (and a bunch of those are mazy)

2) "Burst" runs

a) Balanced Dagger runs. Everyone knows how bloody powerful that thing is, and Cheeky pretty much means you don't get as much from it than you would.
b) Piety burst runs - Taurog rewards killing magic users, Drac rewards killing in general, and I'll ussually get rid of any near-the-entrance lvl1 magic users if I prep Mystera (+ Blanaced Dagger in particular).
c) Ick swamp warlocks for the drops.
d) Fighter runs because killing 2 slowed lvl1's is fine. Bloodmage runs because I pretty much need a few bloodpools around to start bursting down big guys. Monk runs because I care more for blackspace than level-catapults. Crusader runs sometimes to set up the first burst (even though saving popcorn is important for him). Wizard runs sometimes because the fukk*r is between me and glyph, and Tinker runs sometimes because the fukk*r is between me and a subdungeon. Priest runs when a fukk*r is between me and an undead.
e) Lvl1 bosskills are by default uncompatible with cheeky, but the benefits of killing a few for piety and setting up dodges actually lets you skip the whole game. You can say that in these cases going for cheeky actually seers you towards playing the game as it was intended at all.


And then there's the whole learning thing - killing higher level monsters is one of those things that looks like it's "against the rules". You're supposed to level up and then fight (wrong!), you're not supposed to explore while you fight (wrong!), monsters above your level are too tough to fight (wrong!)...
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Re: Gold Star Stickers

Postby berpdreyfuss on Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:36 pm

Yes, of course there are certain runs where it's hard to get cheeky, I was only mentioning that it's the only badge I got on every dungeon I have beaten, without ever even thinking about it.

I totally agree on the learning aspect, though it seems strange that it's the only "learning" badge, while the others (again except Ding Max) put some restriction on your run.

There could be a lot more learning badges, too. And then there could be the learning badges tier 1, and when you've beaten them, the restricting badges tier 2. But that might be too late now... There were a lot more of these in the alpha, right? Was there ever a discussion in the early beta which ones to keep and which to drop?

But it seems everybody is fine with the badges as they are, and I just stumbled over the differences while thinking about them, and it isn't really a major thing for me.
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Re: Gold Star Stickers

Postby Lujo on Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:52 pm

I'm trying to figure out badges as I run into them.

Purist is a diamond.
Cheeky is... well, a posterior.
Ding! Max is a 10.
The bag one is a bag.

What's Unstoppable supposed to be? A wax skull?

There might be one or two more I can't figure out.
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Re: Gold Star Stickers

Postby The Avatar on Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:25 pm

Feeling Parched is a bunch of potions stuck together (presumably you strung the potions you didn't use into a badge).
Faithless is the piety icon with the circle with a line through it.
Miser is a coin on a piece of parchment.
Unstoppable is a bloodstain.
Vicious is the vicious token on a harp or something.
Specialist looks like a military sniper medal, but I'm not sure what it is supposed to be.
Warmonger is just crossed swords.
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