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Re: Desktop dungeons speed run project

PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:40 pm
by OneMoreNameless
^ The gold class challenges don't list a reward in their description, I'd figured they were just for the masochistic and/or return slots. Do all the gold challenges actually reward a lockerable but non-shop item or is thief gold just the exception?

Re: Desktop dungeons speed run project

PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:48 pm
by Lujo
OneMoreNameless wrote:^ The gold class challenges don't list a reward in their description, I'd figured they were just for the masochistic and/or return slots. Do all the gold challenges actually reward a lockerable but non-shop item or is thief gold just the exception?


It's an exception.

@Darvin - How difficult would it be do do the Complicated tasks, and how does it align with collection throphies? If Bandit Scalp is missing, it can be grabbed from one of the complicated tasks quests, I'm sure. But there's at least 2 runs where you'd have to do a directional dungeon with a single boss and a throphy you've allread done. Or am I wrong?

Re: Desktop dungeons speed run project

PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:49 pm
by Wargasm
Lujo wrote:Do the thief gold challenge and the boss drops it. Locker it. Figure it out. Go mad with power!


Hm. Yep, did it once and haven't seen it since. Heh. Thief Guild is the one where I got all the Golds done. Stuck on Warlord, haven't tried Mage Tower/Temple.

Re: Desktop dungeons speed run project

PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:47 pm
by The Avatar
The complicated tasks aren't going to line up too well. Honestly, I think the most efficient thing would just be going an Orc or Dwarf GG rogue ASAP and doing as few runs as possible.

Re: Desktop dungeons speed run project

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:43 pm
by Lujo
The Avatar wrote:The complicated tasks aren't going to line up too well. Honestly, I think the most efficient thing would just be going an Orc or Dwarf GG rogue ASAP and doing as few runs as possible.


You know best :) Will you give it a shot?

Re: Desktop dungeons speed run project

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:52 pm
by Darvin
I ran a purist Gaan-Telet run last night as a dwarf rogue, paying attention to which shop pools I utilized. The only item I purchased that didn't come from the default shop pool was the fortitude tonic, to purge weakening after taking down one of those annoying statues. I can't recall, how many quests deep do you need to go before burn salve and fortitude tonic are sold in the alchemy shop?

Re: Desktop dungeons speed run project

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:59 pm
by Lujo
How many are there all togather? 6? 5?

Last one unlocks all the level 3 potions.
Two of them unlock strenght and shadenfraude.

That leaves 3 if there's 6 and 2 if there's 5?

Last one is in magma mines, there's one in Berserker camp, there's 2 in the first directionals... I'll look it up in one of my playthrough logs :)

Re: Desktop dungeons speed run project

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:12 pm
by Wargasm
Welp, I figured out why I didn't think to locker Fabulous Treasure. If it's in a locker slot or on the ground when you first get it, its value shows as 95. On the locker screen when you COULD locker it but haven't yet? Shows as 0. And 1cp. Doesn't look at all interesting. Heh. (Unseen mouse pointer hovering over the empty middle box, bottom right.)

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(Although I fail to see what prepping it does. I don't seem to have an option to sell it and clicking on it does nothing. Am I supposed to transmute it?)

Re: Desktop dungeons speed run project

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:12 pm
by Lujo
Yes that's how we are using it. Also, that might be a bug, and you know where those go.

I've failed to find any info on the exact structure of the Complicated tasks quest chain, does anyone know how it goes?

Re: Desktop dungeons speed run project

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:50 pm
by Wargasm
I must be dim. Prepping Fabulous Treasure costs 100 gold. If I take it out of the dungeon with me, I get 95 gold after the fact. So I lose five gold. Woo.

Clicking on it doesn't do anything. I tried. A lot. Transmuting it gets me 1 CP. I don't see an option to sell it to a shop. Yet I keep hearing talk like it's the best prep ever and when you have it you can buy out all the shops or something. I do not seem to be able to do that at all.