Unlocking Goatperson

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Re: Unlocking Goatperson

Postby Lynzkar on Thu May 28, 2015 6:28 pm

I have almost rainbowed(compleated with all classes + badges) two vicious (the hardest dungeons on the game) and I still mess up the god-puzzles. So I'm not sure if that's a good way of messuring your skilllevel.
For goatperson, remember to save glyphs for when fighting the boss or some high level enemy. As you won't have popcorn due to his food, and level ups won't heal you anyways. So don't be shy on not leaving popcorn around.
(Just incase you don't know, Popcorn refers to lower level enemies that can easily be killed while killing higher level enemies for mid-fights level up (full hp and mana).)

Anyways, glad to see you enjoy the game!
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Re: Unlocking Goatperson

Postby MTaur on Thu May 28, 2015 6:42 pm

Just to clarify, by "saving glyphs", Lynzkar could mean leaving the glyphs in your inventory OR leaving them sitting around on the ground. Most other races would be more likely to pick a glyph up and decide later whether to convert it, but Goatperson has to time conversions carefully, which as a side-effect means leaving empty space just in case a shop spawns a really good item. Don't forget that you walk onto an item as it lays on the ground and convert it at your feet.

I agree about the god puzzles, too. They can be fun, but they usually have just one solution, whereas a typical DD level is a lot more open-ended.
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Re: Unlocking Goatperson

Postby Tinker on Thu May 28, 2015 7:11 pm

I'm actually a big fan of the puzzles and the class challenges. Yes sometimes they only have specific solution but it teaches you to look for one even if resources seem thin (and sometimes they are thin). I credit a lot of my skill to going through these.
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Re: Unlocking Goatperson

Postby MTaur on Thu May 28, 2015 7:18 pm

Tinker wrote:I'm actually a big fan of the puzzles and the class challenges. Yes sometimes they only have specific solution but it teaches you to look for one even if resources seem thin (and sometimes they are thin). I credit a lot of my skill to going through these.


I guess they're more helpful tools than they are an accurate one-variable test of DD skill as a whole. The downside of them never changing and having a fixed solution is that in theory someone could get 100% just by following YouTube videos.

In a puzzle, you always can win, but in DD, you never quite know whether you can still win, and you don't quite know how long ago you actually screwed it up beyond repair. I kind of prefer the multiple paths to victory and/or defeat of the main game. The puzzles are a little infuriating sometimes. X-D
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Re: Unlocking Goatperson

Postby Tinker on Thu May 28, 2015 8:10 pm

MTaur wrote:I guess they're more helpful tools than they are an accurate one-variable test of DD skill as a whole. The downside of them never changing and having a fixed solution is that in theory someone could get 100% just by following YouTube videos.

In a puzzle, you always can win, but in DD, you never quite know whether you can still win, and you don't quite know how long ago you actually screwed it up beyond repair. I kind of prefer the multiple paths to victory and/or defeat of the main game. The puzzles are a little infuriating sometimes. X-D

Why would you want to look at youtube videos to solve puzzles? Their purpose is to help you learn how to find a solution on your own to a difficult problem. This is exactly the skill that you will need to overcome many difficult problems you'll encounter playing the RNG-based maps. :roll:
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Re: Unlocking Goatperson

Postby MTaur on Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:09 am

By the way, after the most recent Goatperson DERP, I updated the wiki. There was already a lot there about piety, but I expanded a lot on the food and conversion systems, as well as general preps. I actually haven't played the class a ton, so I could be missing some big things, but I do tend to learn about classes when they come up in dailies. I just need that incentive to focus, I guess.

Anyway, I don't want to leave any bad info in there if it's not quite right, so I'd be pleased if someone could give it a check.
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Re: Unlocking Goatperson

Postby William on Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:28 am

dislekcia wrote:That's how it's supposed to work. If you hadn't bought the DLC, then the Goat Glade simply would exist in your Kingdom and the Goatperson and triple quests wouldn't be available at all.

I did a check, by uninstalling my DD and Goat DLC on PC and only reinstalling the base DD. The Goat Glade does not appear even when I load a cloud save with the Goat Person unlocked. When I reinstall the DLC, the Goat Glade reappears. It certainly does not behave the way you describe. Maybe this is related to it being from Gog.com, and maybe that is also what is screwing up my Android Goat Glade from showing up.
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Re: Unlocking Goatperson

Postby Zazzlegut on Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:57 pm

So, do you have to buy the DLC on top of the Enhanced Edition to be able to unlock goatperson?

I assume the answer is yes as I haven't seen any goat glades anywhere.
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Re: Unlocking Goatperson

Postby Gakato on Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:12 pm

The answer is yes. ;)
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Re: Unlocking Goatperson

Postby MTaur on Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:14 pm

Zazzlegut wrote:So, do you have to buy the DLC on top of the Enhanced Edition to be able to unlock goatperson?

I assume the answer is yes as I haven't seen any goat glades anywhere.


This probably isn't 100% correct, but here's how I think I remember it working: You can unlock a Goat Glade that doesn't do anything without the DLC. You have to unlock all 9 altars first, and then the Glade costs 5k. If you buy the DLC, your Glade will grant Goatperson and the triple quests. It's not a very robust DLC, but the original game itself is a bit underpriced anyway and most forum users will probably want to be completist about it. The free EE update has 2-4x as much extra content, in my estimation.
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