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Re: Question about the libary

Postby Nurator on Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:27 pm

Kill Avatar without Demon Lords? Sounds easier than kill them all before Avatar :D Lol, someone has to try that out^^
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Re: Question about the libary

Postby Darvin on Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:25 pm

Nurator wrote:Kill Avatar without Demon Lords? Sounds easier than kill them all before Avatar :D Lol, someone has to try that out^^

Not really; the demons give lots of XP and gold and at least two of them (if not three) are going to be easily killed by whatever specific approach you're running so they're no-brainer level-up fodder. You're putting in a lot of effort, cutting yourself off from altars and shops, and losing out on remaining surface-level blackspace. And it's not like the Avatar is weak, either. If you're not powerful enough to steamroll the demons, you're probably not strong enough to beat him. Not saying this is impossible, but it doesn't look very practical.
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Re: Question about the libary

Postby Astral on Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:10 pm

Heh, I was worried you may find the challenge too easy. But first you need to find out how to 'cheese it'. I will post a result soon when I have some time for it.

But Kami's challenge is pure suicide. Or can someone do it?
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Re: Question about the libary

Postby Darvin on Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:49 pm

Astral wrote:But Kami's challenge is pure suicide. Or can someone do it?

You mean killing Mystera's Dragon? Yeah, that sounds pretty tough. His solution of using GG cleansing sounds appealing, but you'll probably need TT for dodge and reflex/quicksilver to push yourself over the edge, and a specific 2-god combo on top of a specific subdungeon requirement and item loadout that's favorable for damage-spiking will make this really scummy to pull off. Not impossible, just really scummy.

Another solution is more unlock intensive. Go for the Dragon Isles and unlock the Half-Dragon, then scum for the combination of Dracul/APHEELSIK/CYDSTEPP or BLUDTUPOWA/APHEELSIK/CYDSTEPP. The former lets you eliminate the HP threshold requirement for CYDSTEPP casting (and also lets you blood curse, which helps with poison efficiency), the latter lets you convert that HP into MP to avoid waste. The half-dragon naturally has magical attack, which lets you focus just on CYDSTEPP, raising damage, and blocking regeneration.
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Re: Question about the libary

Postby Astral on Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:45 pm

I'd probably do it with an orc warlord of GG, which is a straightforward approach.

I actually meant the lvl1 Avatar kill previously :P
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Re: Question about the libary

Postby Kami on Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:33 am

I did it, was not that difficult to do.

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/561 ... F48E3EFD5/
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Re: Question about the libary

Postby Nurator on Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:04 pm

Nice :) Now to kill Avatar without without Demon Lords... I would say kill everything on top but one Imp with Blink, spam EM things to completely pile up the map forcing the blink to the stairs. WHEYTWUT to the imp hit avatar once, kill spawns to get to lvl 10 fast and kill the avatar :)

Easy^^
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Re: Question about the libary

Postby Kami on Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:08 pm

So what about an lvl 1 avatar kill?
Lujo did a super meatman lvl 1 kill.
So it may be possible.
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Re: Question about the libary

Postby Astral on Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:34 pm

Nice one Kami!

I've read about that really cool lvl 1 SMM kill too, but didn't it require the old trisword?
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Re: Question about the libary

Postby Kami on Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:43 pm

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