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Re: Choongmyoung's diary of VGT runs

Postby choongmyoung on Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:15 pm

Damn my monk purist hadn't saved why

Now I'm really feeling like to uninstall this game
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Re: Choongmyoung's diary of VGT runs

Postby Tinker on Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:33 pm

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Re: Choongmyoung's diary of VGT runs

Postby choongmyoung on Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:22 pm

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The transmuter one is sanguine-free. Only monster classes left, these will be hard I guess.
Nothing special aside.

I've tried Orc Rogue / Human Paladin Purists, but all failed. One GG Rogue run went tower 9 but hey see! There's one-hit-kill warlock!
Damn my purist badge...
Any tips, guys?


FIGHTER BERSERKER WARLORD TRANSMUTER VAMPIRE
THIEF ROGUE ASSASSIN CRUSADER HALF-DRAGON
PRIEST MONK PALADIN TINKER GORGON
WIZARD SORCERER BLOODMAGE CHEMIST RAT-MONARCH
GOATPERSON

CHEEKY FAITHLESS DING!MAX HOARDER MISER
PARCHED PURIST SPECIALIST UNSTOPPABLE WARMONGER
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Re: Choongmyoung's diary of VGT runs

Postby ~'(^ + ^)'~ on Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:43 pm

I didn't do enough tries but most probably Human or Orc Rogue and scumming for first floor GG would be your best bet.

Granted, there is still quite a bit of luck involved but I think this is the "easiest". Or you can try Human Paladin, Wizard, Sorcerer but need to get lucky with first floor GG and prederably second floor PM. I think Paladin should have a very good chance also since he starts with phys. resists and with halpmeh can really go quite far even if not finding the best god options for 1 or 2 floors.

Monster classes, I think you can really try GoatPerson first, it's not that hard once you get a few tries in. Halfdragon and Gorgon might even be "harder" than Goat. As for Rat, I wouldn't say it's hard but it needs quite a bit of things going your way before you can win. People like Eastless or Tinker might be really experienced with Rat and can win with it more reliably. I still feel there's still a bit of luck involved, because if you don't get Dracul within the first 5 to 6 floors, you most likely wouldn't be able to win anyway.
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Re: Choongmyoung's diary of VGT runs

Postby choongmyoung on Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:42 am

Thanks for the tip. Trying Human Rogue now, just got tower 7 with JJ. Two GG run got tower 9, one GG run got 20% H left.
Early PM is really critical, and something helping H fight. Like, Martyr Wraps, BYSSEPS or Piercing Wand. Whurrgarbl at least.
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Re: Choongmyoung's diary of VGT runs

Postby choongmyoung on Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:59 pm

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Hey! Max resists already at tower 5!
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Perfect! It was EXTREMELY fun! Who first thought about Gorgon class? That deathgaze is AWESOME!!! 35+% deathgaze KILLS foes and that poison strike make regen fight hillarious and HALPMEH and tower 1 PM made resists and 50% knockback damage and might and Gloves of Midas and Platemail and Vampiric blade and just I can't even

btw I found an interesting interaction among deathgaze, knockback and blink. When I try to push 1HP dancing blade into a wall, it first get shot by deathgaze and blink away. Then it get shot by normal attack, and then knocked back (if I remember it correctly). So the original wall I intended to break actually does not be broken.


FIGHTER BERSERKER WARLORD TRANSMUTER VAMPIRE
THIEF ROGUE ASSASSIN CRUSADER HALF-DRAGON
PRIEST MONK PALADIN TINKER GORGON
WIZARD SORCERER BLOODMAGE CHEMIST RAT-MONARCH
GOATPERSON

CHEEKY FAITHLESS DING!MAX HOARDER MISER
PARCHED PURIST SPECIALIST UNSTOPPABLE WARMONGER
VICIOUS
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Re: Choongmyoung's diary of VGT runs

Postby choongmyoung on Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:47 am

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Nah.

I'm having a hard time with rogue purist. I had HALPMEH and 2nd tower PM, so I thought this could be a winning run. However it wasn't; so I wonder how can I use rogue to obtain purist. I didn't even got close to max resists even though I had 2nd tower PM, I had 48% resist after ritual scroll and blood shield; I say body pact cannot solely carry the resists.
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Re: Choongmyoung's diary of VGT runs

Postby choongmyoung on Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:14 pm

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That damage output and resistance ignorance...
Now, seriously, the most difficult ones in DD are left.

FIGHTER BERSERKER WARLORD TRANSMUTER VAMPIRE
THIEF ROGUE ASSASSIN CRUSADER HALF-DRAGON
PRIEST MONK PALADIN TINKER GORGON
WIZARD SORCERER BLOODMAGE CHEMIST RAT-MONARCH
GOATPERSON

CHEEKY FAITHLESS DING!MAX HOARDER MISER
PARCHED PURIST SPECIALIST UNSTOPPABLE WARMONGER
VICIOUS
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Re: Choongmyoung's diary of VGT runs

Postby Tinker on Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:22 am

Goatperson is very scary, and it can be frustrating because you can get RNG screwed like with no other build. That said, it isn't particularly difficult once you get the mandatory bit of luck (or, more appropriately, the lack of misfortune), because the ability to pick&choose boons from several deities is huge, and you can reasonably end up with a character that has Learning, Dodge, Sanguine, Humility, lots of stat boosts, not to mention occasionally getting lucky with things like being in EM when getting Grim Malus, or being in GG when getting Ravaged by Forces... So it might take a few tries but when you do it, it will be one of the most fun VGT runs, at least it was for me. One trick is to convert excess food under GG/JJ (just make sure you don't go over board).

Purist was for me very hard. I did it with the Human Rogue, though at the time the conventional wisdom was that only the Human Rogue or the Dwarf Rogue can do it, and even they only with lots of scumming and luck. People who wanted to avoid late tower Warlock 1-shot-kills went with the Dwarf; though most people rather risked that for the benefit of having additional damage, and went with the Human. I'm actually really glad to see that Purist is actually quite doable with Paladin and other classes, so if I get to re-do it in my new kingdom, I'll try to do it with something else (probably the Wizard, Paladin or Crusader).

Rat Monarch was extremely difficult for me at the first time around, though once I got the hang of it, and established some rules for myself on how it should play, it became quite manageable. In my new kingdom I did it on 2nd try. If you don't find Dracul by Tower 6-7, you're dead; otherwise, you need remarkably little luck to win it, I mean there are items that help a lot but none are strictly mandatory; there are glyphs that help a lot but check Eastless' vid, he didn't use HALPMEH at all and won easily. Also, his vid is quite useful to show how you can rely on combining PISORF and BURNDAYRAZ, it's really huge when done properly, I was usually relying on HALPMEH + Knockback, but I'd risk saying that PISORF+BURNDAYRAZ is probably better, not to mention guaranteed.
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Re: Choongmyoung's diary of VGT runs

Postby dusty on Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:46 pm

for just getting the purist badge i like human paladin of gg (scummed of course) as this class is in spite of needed luck and sometimes downright evil rng very consistent. tried 10 games won 4 of them but pactmaker has to show up in tower 4 at the latest. even with pactmaker in the second tower you will have no problem reaching enlightenment, taking absolutions/cleansing, fueling bodypact and getting to horatio with 90 piety (for protections). if timed correctly gg can also remove corrosion/weakness, manaburn and at the same time make short work of gooblobs. for items look out for platemail/soulorb and something to lower resistances. with roughly 20 mana you will have, if no other shop items are viable even fireheart can be a good purchase (you will have a full health refill every 3 enemies or so).
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