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Killing the Avatar but not the Djinns in the Demonic Library

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:36 pm
by Lynzkar
Hey!

Long time scince i've last posted here, although I've been lurking around the forum every now and then. Anyways, looking through the pictures I've saved from victory screen I have from desktop dungeons I found this one I have named "Avatar only", and I can't recall how I managed to pull this off. Somehow I've killed the Avatar, but not the djinns in the demonic Library. Anyone know how to preform this feat?

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Re: Killing the Avatar but not the Djinns in the Demonic Lib

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:20 pm
by General_Milky
Did you get Weytwut anywhere in there? Only way I know to do this is to have an Imp blink into the middle staircase, reveal it with Lemmisee/Bludtopowa, then weytwut it so you can go down yourself.

Re: Killing the Avatar but not the Djinns in the Demonic Lib

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:29 pm
by The Tapir
I remember someone had the idea of filling the screen with plants under EM then leveling with patches and have him teleport you onto the stairs down to the arena, though I can't remember who it was. Probably someone in the bragging thread.

Re: Killing the Avatar but not the Djinns in the Demonic Lib

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:22 pm
by The Avatar
Ah, that's from an early iteration of the Wanderer (a character who was eventually cut from the Extreme Edition mod). One of his abilities was true teleportation, meaning that he could just hop to any visible, non-occupied square. Thus, you could just skip to the middle and kill the Avatar immediately. Theoretically, you should also be able to pull it off with either General Milky's or The Tapir's methods, but this is nothing that complex. (Also, humorously it should be noted that you do not win even though you get the codex and kill him, because the Demonlords are required bosses. Thus, even though you could pull this off with The Tapir's method, only General Milky's method could pull you a win without having a broken class like the Wanderer.)

Re: Killing the Avatar but not the Djinns in the Demonic Lib

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:48 pm
by Lynzkar
Oh right, I didon't notice that I were indeed not playing as a Orc Transmuter. Thanks, The Avatar.
I did consider General_Milky's method, however I too noticed that I did not pull a weytwut.

Re: Killing the Avatar but not the Djinns in the Demonic Lib

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:54 am
by zayyeh
Tinker pulled it off with a Rat back then. She failed to kill all demon lords though, so that would be a real hardcore, if not impossible, challenge. If you are patient you will be able to find that thread and screenshot.

EDIT: Bring a Ledger item with you.

Re: Killing the Avatar but not the Djinns in the Demonic Lib

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:33 am
by srid
I checked the code and it is not possible now with Patch or Blinking enemies.

Patches can only teleport you on an empty tile (no altar, item, booster, stair, bloodpool). That prevents the player from being screwed by spawning on the secret sub entrance. For the same reason, monsters cannot blink on stairs.

However, plants can spawn on stairs, and can you can use Weytwut on them. That should work.

Re: Killing the Avatar but not the Djinns in the Demonic Lib

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:37 am
by choongmyoung
I once had tried to get in the sub, and I used WONAFYT to take an enemy to the stair and used WEYTWUT. But it took too much mana without being able to wander around (so no exploration mana restorage) and my mana potions were depleted too fast.