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Warmonger Rat

Postby shade_of_ox on Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:42 pm

The PQI just asked me to do this in Naga City. Is it even possible? How are you supposed to get any kills without glyphs?
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Re: Warmonger Rat

Postby srid on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:16 am

The PQI uses a randomized algorithm and can give you any combination of Class + Badge that you don't have
already completed for a given dungeon. This doesn't mean all of them are feasible.
Luckily, if you restart the game you will get a new PQI.

Generally speaking Rat Monarch + Warmonger seems pretty tough, and yet it is probably feasible in some dungeons.
Maybe not Naga City though.
Recently I explained in another forum thread how the PQI algorithm works, If you don't want Vicious dungeons in your PQI,
you should increase their completion level a little. Unless you already rainbowed everything, in that case you will have vicious sometimes.

ON the up side, vicious PQI bring 1500 gold...
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Re: Warmonger Rat

Postby shade_of_ox on Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:21 am

srid wrote:The PQI uses a randomized algorithm and can give you any combination of Class + Badge that you don't have
already completed for a given dungeon. This doesn't mean all of them are feasible.
Luckily, if you restart the game you will get a new PQI.

Generally speaking Rat Monarch + Warmonger seems pretty tough, and yet it is probably feasible in some dungeons.
Maybe not Naga City though.
Recently I explained in another forum thread how the PQI algorithm works, If you don't want Vicious dungeons in your PQI,
you should increase their completion level a little. Unless you already rainbowed everything, in that case you will have vicious sometimes.

ON the up side, vicious PQI bring 1500 gold...

I've already rainbowed everything else, so it looks like I'm stuck with vicious PQI. I wish I could get some that are actually doable though...

I ended up trying out a few runs for this with Binlor, but even when I scummed for him I couldn't get past the second wave of bosses before running out of resources.
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Re: Warmonger Rat

Postby srid on Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:35 am

shade_of_ox wrote:I ended up trying out a few runs for this with Binlor, but even when I scummed for him I couldn't get past the second wave of bosses before running out of resources.


Well, so you managed to beat the first wave of bosses, that's not that bad ;-)

If I'm not mistaken, once you complete all vicious (except VGT) at 30% or more you should be back with
normal and hard dungeons in your PQIs.

Just keep restarting the game until you get something that seems feasible, and if there is a Badge that really seem impossible aside from a few classes, or much easier with specific classes (Faithless, Warmonger) just try to complete
it with any class and they won't appear in your PQIs anymore.

Actually, I wish I had vicious dungeons in my PQIs, I would make much more money...
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Re: Warmonger Rat

Postby choongmyoung on Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:47 am

srid wrote:If I'm not mistaken, once you complete all vicious (except VGT) at 30% or more you should be back with normal and hard dungeons in your PQIs.


No, I've rainbowed whole dungeon and my PQI always selects one of the five vicious dungeons.

Btw when I need money I do a flaming dungeon with "my standard gold farm prep" instead of PQI. It's fast, and earns maybe ~200 golds per minute I guess? It's a TT Goblin Assassin build.
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Re: Warmonger Rat

Postby srid on Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:18 pm

choongmyoung wrote:No, I've rainbowed whole dungeon and my PQI always selects one of the five vicious dungeons.


Ho, okay. Guess I misread the code then.

Speaking of impossible PQI, I just got Warmonger Gorgon in Rock Garden, lol.
I'm gonna try with the Titan Guitar...
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Re: Warmonger Rat

Postby srid on Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:43 pm

srid wrote:Speaking of impossible PQI, I just got Warmonger Gorgon in Rock Garden, lol.
I'm gonna try with the Titan Guitar...


Well, actually it went very smoothly.

I also prepped Taurog, and then lost 3/4 of the blackspace looking for a single level 2 or 3 enemy, as you can see on that screenshot. I should have killed level 1s instead.
But in the end it was still plenty enough to cut through the two Iron Men and the Dragon boss.

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Re: Warmonger Rat

Postby shade_of_ox on Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:06 am

Actually, if you want to reset PQI you can also complete a burning dungeon (possibly any dungeon?) which will change the PQI to something new (in addition to restarting the game).

The last time I played this game, I pretty much was just playing "win the dungeon" instead of playing the game and would just run nonstop Rogue for most dungeons. Now I've come back to it and trying to 100%, and I think I appreciate the game a lot more now - there's so much depth to how all the classes can play, it's unbelievable. Now I'm playing a lot of PQIs so I can see if I know how each class works well enough - but when you get something like Warmonger Rat, it's pretty hard...

I ended up resetting this PQI by doing VT Labyrinth as a Gorgon which was also pretty fun.
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Re: Warmonger Rat

Postby choongmyoung on Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:57 am

As long as I remember, not only PQI resets when you try a dungeon run but also even when you hit 'restart' at the result window. At least I'm quite sure PQI resets when you try any dungeun run, but not always. It lasts for a few runs and then resets.
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Re: Warmonger Rat

Postby srid on Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:28 am

That's strange, doing another run never did reset my PQI...

Actually, I just checked the code and I confirm that the only way to reset PQIs are by completing a burning dungeon or reloading the game (full restart, or simply going back to the welcome screen).

I haven't run a burning dungeon for a while now, cause I'm only doing PQIs and Vicious, and my current burning dungeon is the only normal I have already rainbowed, so I'm fine where it currently is.
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