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Re: E3 for everyone!

Postby MIkHaven on Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:06 am

This title is very misleading.

E3 is Today, watched the Microsoft presentation, VERY disappointing.

HOWever the link to the Unity E3 demo "for everyone" is NOT on the site, as far as several people can tell, namely 3.
Please do so soon. Although come to think of it, E3 is 4 days, your link is only active for 3 days. Still hate to think I am losing out on my grace period, due to it NOT being there. Regardless your post is very milsleading to think we got something we acctually didn't.

ON a side note, to the forum posts, the people who are waiting for the "Full-Game" to be able to play it and avoid installing unity. You DO realize you'll still have to probably install Unity for the standalone game. The new game is built off the unity engine, and while its great, and cool they have a web player, that requies Unitys web interface to work. Although I have only been developing games for a little while on the engine. I'd have to go double check to see how Unity does their standalone games. Its like refusing to install DirectX, or Flash, or anything.

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Re: E3 for everyone!

Postby MIkHaven on Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:08 am

I HATE YOU!

SOON as I reply, get it all setup, nice and pretty. I submit, go to the desktopdungoen.net site, and the game is NOW active.

I repeat this, the Text that said "coming soon, now says PLAY!!!

Enjoy!!!
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Re: E3 for everyone!

Postby dislekcia on Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:25 am

MIkHaven wrote:I HATE YOU!

SOON as I reply, get it all setup, nice and pretty. I submit, go to the desktopdungoen.net site, and the game is NOW active.

I repeat this, the Text that said "coming soon, now says PLAY!!!

Enjoy!!!


Also, E3 only opens officially on the 7th of June. Lasts till the 9th. The press conferences all happen before the expo itself. I've been watching people set up their stands all day. You're getting the game earlier because it's the 7th in SA already - thanks timezones ;)
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Re: E3 for everyone!

Postby MIkHaven on Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:07 am

No worries, IGN listed it as the 6-9th, is why I wondered. YOUR probably more right, your on the ground. I've never been to E3, prob never will!

The new Desktop Dungeons Is great, and super fun to play BTW. You should open up a feedback thread, or however you want to do it. ONE thing I'll wonder/say, is its interesting how you have these faded tiles that show you the dungeon layout, in the e3 game. I am not sure if that is a bug or a feature. But its cool! Purist might object thou.

I hate to say it, but I like the OLD character select better. MAYBE once you get some more/better arrtwork to support your new direction. It was just cleaner and easier to understand before, gave me a sense of WOW there is a lot I can unlock. Another aspect is you have unlocked a LOT of characters in the game, SURE hope you have the unlocking system as before, it was FUN to unlock each class as I completed its tasks. (Prob just an E3 thing, give people a LOT more choices.)

You can really get the sense of where you guys are going even in its alpha(if I may use that word) stage, but its great. Its a huge step up in terms of the meta game and preperation cost you guys were blogging about. I can't wait to see the beta version.

THANK you timezones!!!
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Re: E3 for everyone!

Postby Nandrew on Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:12 am

MIkHaven wrote:ONE thing I'll wonder/say, is its interesting how you have these faded tiles that show you the dungeon layout, in the e3 game. I am not sure if that is a bug or a feature.


Faded tiles? Those are usually generated by the Scouting preparation, which you can buy in the kingdom beforehand. Are you talking about that?

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Or are you talking about the shading on already-revealed dungeon walls? Those are intentional, advanced players can use the shadows for a little bit more layout info. Particularly important on some of the more restrictive dungeon layouts.
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Re: E3 for everyone!

Postby MIkHaven on Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:15 am

NOPE, should get you a screenshot. Its, faded, is the best word I can describe. Let me get you a screenshot. THe scouting is really cool. I guess i can see where you get faded more from that, its more like 50% alpha in technical terms for faded scouting. This is pixalilated graphics. Yah pixalated GREAT word for it.
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Re: E3 for everyone!

Postby Nandrew on Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:43 am

MIkHaven wrote:The Shadows on the revealed tiles adds depth and is another COOL feature.
That isn't what I mean thou. I tested this on Firefox and IE9. I have Unity 3.1 installed, developer version in there is such a thing.

Here is what I mean:

Tutorial Wan - Human Guard. No Prep. This version has me cutting and pasting the images as close as I could to give you a better idea of what I mean.
[img]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/36/dd3y.png/][img]

let me know if you need any more help with this issue. I am sorry to bring it up, I think its cool as I said, HOWEVER its something you should probably address.


Okay, I see your problem. We've come across this before once, good to know that it's a broader issue for us to address, we'll get on it.

Please submit bug reports on the main forum and not via PM, these problems are easier to solve when more than one team member can easily view them, and it's a reference for any other users who consider submitting similar reports.

And to everyone else: for any demo-related bugs and game breaks, we've created one big happy thread here to catch them. :) viewtopic.php?f=3&t=42
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Re: E3 for everyone!

Postby guyguy on Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:53 pm

Unfortunately - this "E3" isn't "for everyone" :/ The choice to use Unity Web Player excludes Linux players.

I love the alpha of Desktop Dungeons, and I play it during "micro-breaks" at work. It runs very well on Linux using Wine. But this E3 demo won't work on Linux, and I must say that it is disappointing and makes me feel ignored as a prospective player.

<sad :( >
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Re: E3 for everyone!

Postby Herborist on Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:31 pm

guyguy wrote:Unfortunately - this "E3" isn't "for everyone" :/ The choice to use Unity Web Player excludes Linux players.

I love the alpha of Desktop Dungeons, and I play it during "micro-breaks" at work. It runs very well on Linux using Wine. But this E3 demo won't work on Linux, and I must say that it is disappointing and makes me feel ignored as a prospective player.

<sad :( >


The game is built using Unity. If you can't use the web player, then I don't think you can play the game at all (don't quote me on that).
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Re: E3 for everyone!

Postby guyguy on Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:50 pm

Herborist wrote:
guyguy wrote:Unfortunately - this "E3" isn't "for everyone" :/ The choice to use Unity Web Player excludes Linux players.

I love the alpha of Desktop Dungeons, and I play it during "micro-breaks" at work. It runs very well on Linux using Wine. But this E3 demo won't work on Linux, and I must say that it is disappointing and makes me feel ignored as a prospective player.

<sad :( >


The game is built using Unity. If you can't use the web player, then I don't think you can play the game at all (don't quote me on that).


Yea, you can. Cuz although it's built using Unity, everything you need will be in the program - you don't need to install any outside (unity) package. So it should work fine with Wine.

But I do find the decision to develop a game using a 3rd party platform that isn't available for a lot of systems a bit weired - there are so many multi-system platform (html5, java, flash) (well, not flash anymore, what with apple and stuff). Bah. What can I say - I'm biased against Unity.
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