http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDungeons/api.php?action=feedcontributions&feedformat=atom&user=Fall+ark 2026-05-01T02:40:09Z User contributions MediaWiki 1.25.1 http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDungeons/index.php?title=Alpha:Rogue&diff=636 2010-04-14T04:35:38Z

<p>Fall ark: Ahem. Rouge -&gt; Rogue. Also some added notes about the Pactmaker.</p> <hr /> <div>===Skills===<br /> *Dexterous: first strike in combat regardless of level<br /> *Evasive: monsters miss you 20% of the time<br /> *Dangerous: -5 health per level, +50% damage.<br /> <br /> ===General Strategy===<br /> Use your first strike, fireballs and your enhanced evasion to take on high level monsters early on and preserve your potions for boss battles. Be cautious though, since monsters with first strike still have priority unless their level is lower than yours. <br /> <br /> ===Race and Deity Choices===<br /> Dwarf is an obvious choice for a Rogue to make up for his lack of health (otherwise stronger opponents will wipe the floor with you). If you're cocky, Human, Gnome and Orc are still solid choices.<br /> <br /> Due to his enhanced evasion, the Rogue can make pretty good use of Tikki Tooki. If gotten soon enough, your dodge rate will be at around 50%, once you're facing the bosses. If you don't want to depend on luck so much, you can still go with The Pactmaker or another deity. Be careful with the latter though: taking The Pactmaker at level 1 will usually cause instant death because of the -5 penalty to your Max Health (also the -5 to your base damage will usually destroy your melee capability). <br /> <br /> ===Challenge Modes===<br /> <br /> ====Snake Pit====<br /> Not that much of a challenge here. Take on high level Serpents and Nagas with fireballs and melee attacks to level up. Be careful with gorgons, since they have First Attack themselves and will always attack you first in melee, no matter your level. Tikki Tooki's ability is helpful but not necessary. Use your piled up potions and midfight level ups to take on bosses and take care to not get petrified or poisoned.</div>

Fall ark http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDungeons/index.php?title=Feedback&diff=499 2010-03-27T16:04:38Z

<p>Fall ark: </p> <hr /> <div>===Game Bugs===<br /> *I just finished a game in which I was able to cast LEMMISI without it costing any mana. I'm not sure if this is a bug or an effect from a god (I'm a noob), but I thought I should mention it anyway.<br /> ::Ah, that's exactly how it's supposed to work. That's why you get a &quot;Surprisingly Handy&quot; award if you use it at least once...It might be better that you figure it out yourself. :)<br /> <br /> *Minor bugs with message displays and altars - 1) If you move on to an altar which also uncovers a boss at the same time, you'll only get the boss's speech and no altar message. 2) If you attack a monster on an altar (summoned by WONAFYT), you'll get the altar message and conversion opportunity without actually stepping on the altar (like the other altar bug below, this only happens if you haven't been to that altar most recently). The first issue arises with shops as well, but not the second. --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]]<br /> <br /> *The Scouting Orb's description says it increases sight radius, but it does nothing if your sight radius is already above the normal (half-dragon). The description should probably say e.g. 'increases sight radius to 2 spaces' or something along those lines. --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]]<br /> <br /> *Another bug: I fell into negative XP. I believe the bug is associated with the CYDSTEPP (survive next killing blow) rune, and possibly how it interacts with the Paladin's HP for killing undead ability. I'd just killed a level 5 wraith which was supposed to do enough damage to kill me (and removing my death protection), but instead my protection remained, my HP stayed the same (I think), and I went into negative XP. Later just messing around, I died and lost the protection, recast it with some mana potions, and died again and my XP finally fixed itself, jumping to level 6. Screenshot: http://it-is-law.com/dump/DD-NegXPBug.png --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]]<br /> ::I had the same thing happen, except with the Glowing Guardian Deity not the CYDSTEPP glyph. I think it has a problem trying to process all the events that occurred (the death of the monster, your not dying, gain of life, gain of attack, gain of exp, and/or anything else). So this may be possible with any character/race.<br /> ::same- paladin orc with CYDSTEPP in the crypt. I think I got down to -28 xp before a save-vs-death finally realigned the numbers.--[[User:Sxerks|Sxerks]] 18:14, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Bug- by clicking on covered(black) areas you can find and get the deity dialog and worship without ever uncovering the block.--[[User:Sxerks|Sxerks]] 18:14, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Specifically, this seems to happen after you just went to another altar. In this example: http://it-is-law.com/dump/DD-AltarBug.png if I go to the bottom right altar, I can then click on and activate the top left altar without traveling there. This does not seem to be the case for shops. This is likely related to the other altar bug I posted above. --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]]<br /> <br /> *Bug? - Sorry if this is not the right place to report but can't see a better one. Getting error message &quot;Unexpected error occured when running the game&quot; immediately on launch, when trying to play on Netbook. Suppose it might be something to do with supported resolution (on this netbook, resolution is 1024x600). Or something else perhaps? --[[User:Serioustiger|serioustiger]] 19:26, 24 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===Other Game Issues (Balance, Interface, etc.)===<br /> <br /> *About Health and Attack powerups (the kind scattered about the dungeon): Can we get some explanation on these things? After noticing that the attack power up does nothing for a level 1 character, I've been holding off on getting them. Likewise, the health power ups give more health at higher levels. What I want to know is, should I hold off on getting them or do they scale to level even after you've gotten them? --golden_cow2<br /> ::The attack power ups give you a 10% percentage bonus over your base damage per power up, so this extra damage will raise as your base damage does. So get them as soon as your strategy allows you. --Lanis<br /> ::Likewise the health bonus also scales with your level (1 MAX HP per level, the same as Dwarf glyph conversion). No need to hold off. --fall_ark <br /> :::The Health Bonus should probably be shown when you hover over your health as it does for damage, then, to at least partially clear up the issue. --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]]<br /> <br /> *I've found it really evil that the Escape key closes the entire game instantly. I've already lost at least 2 characters from tapping escape trying to cancel a spell :/ (I'm aware right click cancels, but habits from other games don't die so easily...) --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]]<br /> ::Agreed. I lost 5 or so promising characters because of that. Changing the 'instant close' key to something like F12 and having the ESC key one ask if you want to exit would work better and without functionality loss. --Lanis<br /> :More keyboard-friendly controls will certainly make the game better! e.g. Arrow keys for moving, 5/6 for potions, SPACE/ENTER/ESC for shop and altar conversations. So on. --fall_ark<br /> :::Absolutely, I just listed the most pressing issue first =) Even if the mouse is still required in the end (though it probably doesn't need to be), numpad movement would be a definitely improvement. I'm thinking Y/N for shops and altars to make it clear what your selection is - though space could also default to a 'no' response. --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]]<br /> ::Wait. Instead of remapping the Escape key, just make it pop up a screen that asks if you really want to quit the game. Alternatively, make it so that holding down Escape for two seconds closes the whole application. --HydroKirby<br /> ::I also like a full keyboard control, azeqdwxc for moving, keybinded potions, yay and nay etc. The only point of using the mouse would be, in some cases, to prevent the discovering of some tiles, but if you really want to it's still possible to put something like selecting a tile with arrow keys and enter to go there. [[User:Rex4|Rex4]] 20:33, 21 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *The current gold system is essentially a pointless grinding mechanic - after each game, load up Goblin Wizard or whatever, go grab some quick cash, then start playing again. I don't currently have a great idea to replace it with, but the implementation as-is adds unfun grinding time without adding any actual thought or decision to the process. --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]]<br /> ::Removing the shared gold between runs and making gold coins give you more gold depending on your race/class/max gold should be enough. Basically, a gold-hunting race/class combo should allow you to be able to buy one or two good items more than other classes under the same circumstances. Now not only this removes the gold grinding, but it'll allow people to use goblins for serious ranked games, for example. --Lanis<br /> ::Concurred. I would suggest adding a &quot;Minimum Gold&quot; bonus (or simply replace the Max Gold bonus). There should still be a little room for gold hoarding for new players though, like Max Gold = Minimum Gold + 50 or something. --fall_ark<br /> <br /> *The chances of getting a completely unwinnable game are too high. If it happens occasionally that's fine, but right now it's fairly common and at least some check to help avoid these situations would be desirable. Example games: <br /> :http://it-is-law.com/dump/Unbeatable1.png<br /> :http://it-is-law.com/dump/Unbeatable2.png<br /> :http://it-is-law.com/dump/Unbeatable3.png<br /> :My proposal: map out the monsters and runes in area that can be reached by a new character during level generation; mapping should 'go through' level 1 and 2 monsters but treat higher level monsters as walls, so to speak. There must be one of: a) Any of the Passwall, Teleport Monster, or Teleport Self glyphs are reachable; b) At least five level 1 monsters available to fight; c) At least two level 1 monsters and one level 2 monster; or d) The Summon Monster glyph is reachable and at least five total level 1 monsters are on the board (if this is guaranteed already, simply make it a straight glyph check as with [a].)<br /> :The idea isn't to make it easier - just to remove impossible scenarios. You might still have to, say, use your starting health potion to take out a level 2 or whatever which is fine. This won't remove all unwinnable situations, but should remove a significant percentage of them without making anything easier the rest of the time. --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]]<br /> <br /> *Worshiping Pactmaker as an unimproved Rogue results in instant death. Is this intended? --Azeltir<br /> :Pactmaker takes 5 Base Damage and 5 Max Health so an unimproved Rogue will indeed die instantly due to Health drop to zero. Most characters &quot;unimproved&quot; would be screwed though, since your base damage is now likely zero. --fall_ark<br /> <br /> ===Game Feedback===<br /> <br /> *I like this game a lot :)<br /> <br /> *This game is what I was looking for since years! In order to introduce roguelikes to my 6 years old son, I would be interested in translate it in french. You can e-mail me if it sounds interesting for you ! --[[User:lepoulpe303|lepoulpe303]]</div>

Fall ark http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDungeons/index.php?title=Tileset&diff=426 2010-03-24T02:08:22Z

<p>Fall ark: Created page with 'Note: Ideally every tileset should be given an independent entry with descriptions and screenshots. Right now I just added the TIGSource thread and some posts in the NAG thread. …'</p> <hr /> <div>Note: Ideally every tileset should be given an independent entry with descriptions and screenshots. Right now I just added the TIGSource thread and some posts in the NAG thread. <br /> <br /> <br /> ==Change Your Tileset==<br /> Click on the &quot;Tileset&quot; button in the main game interface. Type in a directory name and you are good to go. The game will automatically &quot;hunt&quot; through the designated directory name in the &quot;tilesets&quot; directory.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Alternate Tilesets==<br /> <br /> *[http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=11688.0 Desktop Dungeons Tileset Sharing Thread on TIGSource]<br /> ::Derek Yu's tileset: The original post.<br /> ::Hangedman's Roguelike tileset: reply #18, #21<br /> ::Hangedman's Oryx tileset: reply #23<br /> ::Pencil_In_Pain's Strain tileset: reply #29<br /> <br /> *Pumpkinburger's female classes and other stuff<br /> ::http://forums.tidemedia.co.za/nag/showpost.php?p=266628&amp;postcount=497<br /> ::http://forums.tidemedia.co.za/nag/showpost.php?p=266699&amp;postcount=508<br /> ::http://forums.tidemedia.co.za/nag/showpost.php?p=266776&amp;postcount=514<br /> <br /> *prestige's plainer tiles and glyphs<br /> ::http://forums.tidemedia.co.za/nag/showpost.php?p=266826&amp;postcount=525<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Known Issues==<br /> As of 0.51, the file &quot;Wall2.png&quot; doesn't work. This should be the gray brick tile used for the interface panel background.</div>

Fall ark http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDungeons/index.php?title=Feedback&diff=425 2010-03-24T01:28:24Z

<p>Fall ark: /* Other Game Issues (Balance, Interface, etc.) */</p> <hr /> <div>===Game Bugs===<br /> <br /> *Minor bugs with message displays and altars - 1) If you move on to an altar which also uncovers a boss at the same time, you'll only get the boss's speech and no altar message. 2) If you attack a monster on an altar (summoned by WONAFYT), you'll get the altar message and conversion opportunity without actually stepping on the altar (like the other altar bug below, this only happens if you haven't been to that altar most recently). The first issue arises with shops as well, but not the second. --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]]<br /> <br /> *The Scouting Orb's description says it increases sight radius, but it does nothing if your sight radius is already above the normal (half-dragon). The description should probably say e.g. 'increases sight radius to 2 spaces' or something along those lines. --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]]<br /> <br /> *Another bug: I fell into negative XP. I believe the bug is associated with the CYDSTEPP (survive next killing blow) rune, and possibly how it interacts with the Paladin's HP for killing undead ability. I'd just killed a level 5 wraith which was supposed to do enough damage to kill me (and removing my death protection), but instead my protection remained, my HP stayed the same (I think), and I went into negative XP. Later just messing around, I died and lost the protection, recast it with some mana potions, and died again and my XP finally fixed itself, jumping to level 6. Screenshot: http://it-is-law.com/dump/DD-NegXPBug.png --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]]<br /> ::I had the same thing happen, except with the Glowing Guardian Deity not the CYDSTEPP glyph. I think it has a problem trying to process all the events that occurred (the death of the monster, your not dying, gain of life, gain of attack, gain of exp, and/or anything else). So this may be possible with any character/race.<br /> ::same- paladin orc with CYDSTEPP in the crypt. I think I got down to -28 xp before a save-vs-death finally realigned the numbers.--[[User:Sxerks|Sxerks]] 18:14, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Bug- by clicking on covered(black) areas you can find and get the deity dialog and worship without ever uncovering the block.--[[User:Sxerks|Sxerks]] 18:14, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Specifically, this seems to happen after you just went to another altar. In this example: http://it-is-law.com/dump/DD-AltarBug.png if I go to the bottom right altar, I can then click on and activate the top left altar without traveling there. This does not seem to be the case for shops. This is likely related to the other altar bug I posted above. --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]]<br /> <br /> ===Other Game Issues (Balance, Interface, etc.)===<br /> <br /> *About Health and Attack powerups (the kind scattered about the dungeon): Can we get some explanation on these things? After noticing that the attack power up does nothing for a level 1 character, I've been holding off on getting them. Likewise, the health power ups give more health at higher levels. What I want to know is, should I hold off on getting them or do they scale to level even after you've gotten them? --golden_cow2<br /> ::The attack power ups give you a 10% percentage bonus over your base damage per power up, so this extra damage will raise as your base damage does. So get them as soon as your strategy allows you. --Lanis<br /> ::Likewise the health bonus also scales with your level (1 MAX HP per level, the same as Dwarf glyph conversion). No need to hold off. --fall_ark <br /> :::The Health Bonus should probably be shown when you hover over your health as it does for damage, then, to at least partially clear up the issue. --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]]<br /> <br /> *I've found it really evil that the Escape key closes the entire game instantly. I've already lost at least 2 characters from tapping escape trying to cancel a spell :/ (I'm aware right click cancels, but habits from other games don't die so easily...) --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]]<br /> ::Agreed. I lost 5 or so promising characters because of that. Changing the 'instant close' key to something like F12 and having the ESC key one ask if you want to exit would work better and without functionality loss. --Lanis<br /> :More keyboard-friendly controls will certainly make the game better! e.g. Arrow keys for moving, 5/6 for potions, SPACE/ENTER/ESC for shop and altar conversations. So on. --fall_ark<br /> :::Absolutely, I just listed the most pressing issue first =) Even if the mouse is still required in the end (though it probably doesn't need to be), numpad movement would be a definitely improvement. I'm thinking Y/N for shops and altars to make it clear what your selection is - though space could also default to a 'no' response. --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]]<br /> ::Wait. Instead of remapping the Escape key, just make it pop up a screen that asks if you really want to quit the game. Alternatively, make it so that holding down Escape for two seconds closes the whole application. --HydroKirby<br /> ::I also like a full keyboard control, azeqdwxc for moving, keybinded potions, yay and nay etc. The only point of using the mouse would be, in some cases, to prevent the discovering of some tiles, but if you really want to it's still possible to put something like selecting a tile with arrow keys and enter to go there. [[User:Rex4|Rex4]] 20:33, 21 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *The current gold system is essentially a pointless grinding mechanic - after each game, load up Goblin Wizard or whatever, go grab some quick cash, then start playing again. I don't currently have a great idea to replace it with, but the implementation as-is adds unfun grinding time without adding any actual thought or decision to the process. --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]]<br /> ::Removing the shared gold between runs and making gold coins give you more gold depending on your race/class/max gold should be enough. Basically, a gold-hunting race/class combo should allow you to be able to buy one or two good items more than other classes under the same circumstances. Now not only this removes the gold grinding, but it'll allow people to use goblins for serious ranked games, for example. --Lanis<br /> ::Concurred. I would suggest adding a &quot;Minimum Gold&quot; bonus (or simply replace the Max Gold bonus). There should still be a little room for gold hoarding for new players though, like Max Gold = Minimum Gold + 50 or something. --fall_ark<br /> <br /> *The chances of getting a completely unwinnable game are too high. If it happens occasionally that's fine, but right now it's fairly common and at least some check to help avoid these situations would be desirable. Example games: <br /> :http://it-is-law.com/dump/Unbeatable1.png<br /> :http://it-is-law.com/dump/Unbeatable2.png<br /> :http://it-is-law.com/dump/Unbeatable3.png<br /> :My proposal: map out the monsters and runes in area that can be reached by a new character during level generation; mapping should 'go through' level 1 and 2 monsters but treat higher level monsters as walls, so to speak. There must be one of: a) Any of the Passwall, Teleport Monster, or Teleport Self glyphs are reachable; b) At least five level 1 monsters available to fight; c) At least two level 1 monsters and one level 2 monster; or d) The Summon Monster glyph is reachable and at least five total level 1 monsters are on the board (if this is guaranteed already, simply make it a straight glyph check as with [a].)<br /> :The idea isn't to make it easier - just to remove impossible scenarios. You might still have to, say, use your starting health potion to take out a level 2 or whatever which is fine. This won't remove all unwinnable situations, but should remove a significant percentage of them without making anything easier the rest of the time. --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]]<br /> <br /> *Worshiping Pactmaker as an unimproved Rogue results in instant death. Is this intended? --Azeltir<br /> :Pactmaker takes 5 Base Damage and 5 Max Health so an unimproved Rogue will indeed die instantly due to Health drop to zero. Most characters &quot;unimproved&quot; would be screwed though, since your base damage is now likely zero. --fall_ark<br /> <br /> ===Game Feedback===<br /> <br /> *I like this game a lot :)<br /> <br /> *This game is what I was looking for since years! In order to introduce roguelikes to my 6 years old son, I would be interested in translate it in french. You can e-mail me if it sounds interesting for you ! --[[User:lepoulpe303|lepoulpe303]]</div>

Fall ark http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDungeons/index.php?title=Alpha:Thief&diff=377 2010-03-23T00:02:31Z

<p>Fall ark: Deleted the notice about potion line. I've added the &quot;formula&quot; of potions (40% of your Max Health/Mana) in the New Players Guide. Perhaps it should be added to some other sections as well?</p> <hr /> <div>'''Needs Content: Everything. Also a better need's content banner thingy.'''<br /> <br /> [[File:HeroThief.png]]<br /> <br /> ===Skills===<br /> *Stabber - Your first attack against a monster does +30% damage<br /> *Hoarder - +33% more items on map (+1 of each: Health Powerup, Mana Powerup, Attack Powerup, Skill Glyph, Health Potion and Mana Potion)<br /> *Survivor - Potions restore both health and mana<br /> <br /> ===General Strategy===<br /> The +30% damage on your first strike could become tricky to calculate because of Attack Powerups and Human Glyph Conversions. Hover your mouse cursor on the Attack icon to display Base Damage and Damage Bonus. It's essential to have the correct calculation when you plan on beating a high level monster.<br /> When you are about to drink a potion, be sure that you have exhausted both your Health and Mana so that you don't waste the potion's effects.<br /> <br /> ===Race and Deity Choices===<br /> Since potions have exactly the same effects for a Thief, being a Halfling and being a Gnome are essentially the same thing.<br /> <br /> ===Challenge Modes===</div>

Fall ark http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDungeons/index.php?title=Alpha:Races&diff=351 2010-03-22T04:31:44Z

<p>Fall ark: Spelling</p> <hr /> <div>__NOTOC__<br /> ==Regular Races==<br /> There are seven regular races, each of which can convert [[glyphs]] (magic spells/skills) into a different permanent bonus.<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;4&quot; style=&quot;border-collapse: collapse;&quot; class<br /> |- style=&quot;background-color: #EEEEEE&quot;<br /> !Race<br /> !Converts glyphs to...<br /> !Unlock<br /> !Strategy<br /> |-<br /> | Human<br /> | +10% Damage Bonus<br /> | Start<br /> | Great for beginners and Rogues/Berserkers<br /> |-<br /> | Elf<br /> | +2 Maximum Mana<br /> | Start<br /> | Amazing Wizards.<br /> |-<br /> | Dwarf<br /> | +1 Max Health per level*<br /> | Start<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | Hafling<br /> | +1 Healing Potion<br /> | Start<br /> | Great for many challenge missions.<br /> |-<br /> | Gnome<br /> | +1 Mana Potion<br /> | Start<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | Goblin<br /> | +10 gold<br /> | Defeat the Crypt challenge with any race.<br /> | Natural fit for tinkers. Goblin Wizards are useful for farming gold.<br /> |-<br /> |Orc<br /> | +5 experience<br /> | Defeat the Library challenge with any race.<br /> | Extra experience at will makes leveling up to heal much easier. Good for Assassins.<br /> |}<br /> * Health Powerups and the Dwarf's Glyph Conversion gives you 1 Max Health per Level. This means the bonus scales while you level up, your total bonus Max Health equals Level * (Dwarf Conversion + Health Powerups). This is NOT a percentage bonus. Buying a +10 Max Health item will not increase the bonus from Health Powerups or Dwarf's Glyph Conversion, and likewise worshipping Dracul will not decrease the bonus.<br /> <br /> ==Special races==<br /> In addition, 3 special races exist as unlockables, that are a both a race and class together. Each of these three cause significant changes to the core mechanics of the game.<br /> <br /> ===Gorgon===<br /> * Starts with ENDISWAL Glyph<br /> * -50% Damage Bonus at start<br /> * 50% Physical Resist<br /> * Poison Attack (can poison Undead)<br /> * Immune to Death Gaze<br /> * +2 Mana per kill<br /> * Every enemy killed in any manner will become a wall<br /> * 10% Death Gaze, gains an additional 5% for every glyph converted<br /> <br /> Once the enemy's HP is below your Death Gaze percentage, attacking them with melee will cause your damage to be exactly the HP required to instantly kill them. The Death Gaze percentage and resulting damage is unaffected by resistances. This damage may be lower than your actual current Attack, so keep this in mind for increasing the Damage score in Ranked games -- though this often won't matter so much with the Gorgon's low Damage Bonus.<br /> <br /> You do not have First Strike, unlike enemy Gorgons. The petrification on kill counts towards the [[Gods|Earthmother]]'s reward, but it does not count towards any Score rewards. However, since all enemies you kill will be petrified, you may have to use ENDISWAL a lot: plan for this extra mana cost requirement, and note that the Earthmother will punish you for using it if you choose her. And remember that the Gorgon only starts with Physical Resistance: Dragonspawn, Warlocks and Wraiths will still do full damage to you.<br /> <br /> ===Half Dragon===<br /> * 200% Max Health at start<br /> * Magical Attack<br /> * Increased Sight Radius (same effect as [[Items|Scouting Orb]], all tiles touching an explored tile will be partially uncovered, allowing you to see what type of object lies there)<br /> * BURNDAYRAZ glyph costs 99 Mana, preventing its use<br /> * 20% Knockback, gains an additional 20% for every glyph converted<br /> <br /> Knockback causes enemies to go flying one square in the direction you hit them when you use a melee attack, unless another enemy is in the way. If they land on a wall, they will destroy it. Knockback is calculated from your Base Damage and applies damage when an enemy destroys a wall or hits another enemy, ignoring resistances. When knocked back into another enemy, Knockback damage is halved and applied to both enemies. Finally, the enemy you knocked your target into will never die from the Knockback: they will be left at 1 HP minimum and lose a level of Death Protection if they have one.<br /> <br /> Since they can't use BURNDAYRAZ, it's best converted as soon as you see it. Knockback is a good way of breaking walls past high-level enemies or even dealing early damage to them by knocking enemies into them. Knockback damage is also left unaffected by [[Gods|Mystera]]'s restriction and is not affected by damage resists. Be wary of enemies with Magical Resist, as Knockback is the only solid way you have of dealing damage to them. And note that if you deal more damage to a particular enemy if you knock them into a wall instead of another enemy. Finally, although they have high max health, remember that they still have the same health regeneration as standard classes.<br /> <br /> ===Vampire===<br /> * 30 Max Health at start, instead of 10<br /> * 3 Health Potions at start, instead of 1<br /> * Gains 7 Base Damage per level, instead of 5<br /> * No Health Regen - you lose 1 HP per tile explored instead<br /> * First Strike<br /> * Immune to Poison<br /> * Immune to Mana Burn<br /> * Can sense the locations of all monsters of equal or lower level<br /> * Spells cost Health instead of Mana<br /> * Restores 10% of Max Health from blood pools<br /> * 25% Life Steal, gains an additional 5% for every glyph converted<br /> <br /> Life Steal causes you to get back a percentage of your Total Damage you dealt as Health when you use a melee attack. So if you hit a monster for 50 damage, you'd recover 12 Health with 25% Life Steal.<br /> <br /> Vampire is tricky at the start since you're reliant on enemies you can kill being close-by. You can only explore 30 tiles before you need to drink a Health Potion or steal some life. Once you've gained a couple of levels though, your increased Health and Damage makes taking on almost any enemy a breeze. Do note that the extra Max Health to begin with is simply an increase of 20: unlike the Half-Dragon, you will still only get an additional 10 HP per level barring Health Powerup bonuses. Also, First Strike does not let you go before other enemies with First Strike, and the lack of regen means that Gorgons can pose a minor threat if you're not careful. The increased Base Damage means that effects that increase your Damage Bonus are even more potent as well.</div>

Fall ark http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDungeons/index.php?title=Alpha:Races&diff=350 2010-03-22T04:30:51Z

<p>Fall ark: Clarifies the annotation to Dwarf's Glyph Conversion bonus. It's not a percentage bonus (not affected by other + Max Health items / worshipping Dracul, etc.).</p> <hr /> <div>__NOTOC__<br /> ==Regular Races==<br /> There are seven regular races, each of which can convert [[glyphs]] (magic spells/skills) into a different permanent bonus.<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;4&quot; style=&quot;border-collapse: collapse;&quot; class<br /> |- style=&quot;background-color: #EEEEEE&quot;<br /> !Race<br /> !Converts glyphs to...<br /> !Unlock<br /> !Strategy<br /> |-<br /> | Human<br /> | +10% Damage Bonus<br /> | Start<br /> | Great for beginners and Rogues/Berserkers<br /> |-<br /> | Elf<br /> | +2 Maximum Mana<br /> | Start<br /> | Amazing Wizards.<br /> |-<br /> | Dwarf<br /> | +1 Max Health per level*<br /> | Start<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | Hafling<br /> | +1 Healing Potion<br /> | Start<br /> | Great for many challenge missions.<br /> |-<br /> | Gnome<br /> | +1 Mana Potion<br /> | Start<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | Goblin<br /> | +10 gold<br /> | Defeat the Crypt challenge with any race.<br /> | Natural fit for tinkers. Goblin Wizards are useful for farming gold.<br /> |-<br /> |Orc<br /> | +5 experience<br /> | Defeat the Library challenge with any race.<br /> | Extra experience at will makes leveling up to heal much easier. Good for Assassins.<br /> |}<br /> * Health Powerups and the Dwarf's Glyph Conversion gives you 1 Max Health per Level. This means the bonus scale while you level up, your total bonus Max Health equals Level * (Dwarf Conversion + Health Powerups). This is NOT a percentage bonus. Buying a +10 Max Health item will not increase the bonus from Health Powerups or Dwarf's Glyph Conversion, and likewise worshipping Dracul will not decrease the bonus. <br /> <br /> ==Special races==<br /> In addition, 3 special races exist as unlockables, that are a both a race and class together. Each of these three cause significant changes to the core mechanics of the game.<br /> <br /> ===Gorgon===<br /> * Starts with ENDISWAL Glyph<br /> * -50% Damage Bonus at start<br /> * 50% Physical Resist<br /> * Poison Attack (can poison Undead)<br /> * Immune to Death Gaze<br /> * +2 Mana per kill<br /> * Every enemy killed in any manner will become a wall<br /> * 10% Death Gaze, gains an additional 5% for every glyph converted<br /> <br /> Once the enemy's HP is below your Death Gaze percentage, attacking them with melee will cause your damage to be exactly the HP required to instantly kill them. The Death Gaze percentage and resulting damage is unaffected by resistances. This damage may be lower than your actual current Attack, so keep this in mind for increasing the Damage score in Ranked games -- though this often won't matter so much with the Gorgon's low Damage Bonus.<br /> <br /> You do not have First Strike, unlike enemy Gorgons. The petrification on kill counts towards the [[Gods|Earthmother]]'s reward, but it does not count towards any Score rewards. However, since all enemies you kill will be petrified, you may have to use ENDISWAL a lot: plan for this extra mana cost requirement, and note that the Earthmother will punish you for using it if you choose her. And remember that the Gorgon only starts with Physical Resistance: Dragonspawn, Warlocks and Wraiths will still do full damage to you.<br /> <br /> ===Half Dragon===<br /> * 200% Max Health at start<br /> * Magical Attack<br /> * Increased Sight Radius (same effect as [[Items|Scouting Orb]], all tiles touching an explored tile will be partially uncovered, allowing you to see what type of object lies there)<br /> * BURNDAYRAZ glyph costs 99 Mana, preventing its use<br /> * 20% Knockback, gains an additional 20% for every glyph converted<br /> <br /> Knockback causes enemies to go flying one square in the direction you hit them when you use a melee attack, unless another enemy is in the way. If they land on a wall, they will destroy it. Knockback is calculated from your Base Damage and applies damage when an enemy destroys a wall or hits another enemy, ignoring resistances. When knocked back into another enemy, Knockback damage is halved and applied to both enemies. Finally, the enemy you knocked your target into will never die from the Knockback: they will be left at 1 HP minimum and lose a level of Death Protection if they have one.<br /> <br /> Since they can't use BURNDAYRAZ, it's best converted as soon as you see it. Knockback is a good way of breaking walls past high-level enemies or even dealing early damage to them by knocking enemies into them. Knockback damage is also left unaffected by [[Gods|Mystera]]'s restriction and is not affected by damage resists. Be wary of enemies with Magical Resist, as Knockback is the only solid way you have of dealing damage to them. And note that if you deal more damage to a particular enemy if you knock them into a wall instead of another enemy. Finally, although they have high max health, remember that they still have the same health regeneration as standard classes.<br /> <br /> ===Vampire===<br /> * 30 Max Health at start, instead of 10<br /> * 3 Health Potions at start, instead of 1<br /> * Gains 7 Base Damage per level, instead of 5<br /> * No Health Regen - you lose 1 HP per tile explored instead<br /> * First Strike<br /> * Immune to Poison<br /> * Immune to Mana Burn<br /> * Can sense the locations of all monsters of equal or lower level<br /> * Spells cost Health instead of Mana<br /> * Restores 10% of Max Health from blood pools<br /> * 25% Life Steal, gains an additional 5% for every glyph converted<br /> <br /> Life Steal causes you to get back a percentage of your Total Damage you dealt as Health when you use a melee attack. So if you hit a monster for 50 damage, you'd recover 12 Health with 25% Life Steal.<br /> <br /> Vampire is tricky at the start since you're reliant on enemies you can kill being close-by. You can only explore 30 tiles before you need to drink a Health Potion or steal some life. Once you've gained a couple of levels though, your increased Health and Damage makes taking on almost any enemy a breeze. Do note that the extra Max Health to begin with is simply an increase of 20: unlike the Half-Dragon, you will still only get an additional 10 HP per level barring Health Powerup bonuses. Also, First Strike does not let you go before other enemies with First Strike, and the lack of regen means that Gorgons can pose a minor threat if you're not careful. The increased Base Damage means that effects that increase your Damage Bonus are even more potent as well.</div>

Fall ark http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDungeons/index.php?title=Alpha:New_Players_Guide&diff=321 2010-03-19T12:51:11Z

<p>Fall ark: Added the &quot;Potions and Powerups&quot; section since many people are still confused about whether Health and Attack powerups scale or not.</p> <hr /> <div>== Gameplay Basics ==<br /> ===Object of the Game===<br /> #Your object is to kill the level 10 &quot;boss monster&quot; in the dungeon.<br /> ===[[Level|Gaining Levels]]===<br /> #You start at level 1, and will increase in level as you gain experience, which you get for killing monsters in the dungeon.<br /> #Each time you gain a new level, your attack damage and hit points increase.<br /> <br /> ===Combat===<br /> #A combat exchange happens whenever the hero bumps into a monster.<br /> #The higher level combatant strikes first. If the hero and monster are same level, then the monster goes first.<br /> #The first attacker deals damage to the opponent equal to its attack power.<br /> #The second attacker, if still alive, then deals damage to the opponent equal to its attack power.<br /> <br /> ===Mana and Spells===<br /> #Mana is used for casting spells. You start with no spells, and must find the spell [[glyphs]] in the dungeon.<br /> #In order to learn a spell after you've found it, you must click it in the &quot;on ground&quot; slot, and it will appear in your spell slots.<br /> #Casting a spell on a monster does NOT trigger a combat exchange.<br /> #Glyphs that aren't very useful to you should be converted by dragging them into the teal-and-red conversion icon. This will give you a benefit depending upon your [[races|race]]. Humans get more attack power, for example.<br /> <br /> ===Healing and Restoring Mana===<br /> #As you explore the dungeon, you will restore depleted hit points and mana. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. The unexplored dungeon is a scarce resource that heals you and restores your mana pool. Use it wisely.<br /> #For every square of the dungeon you uncover, you recover 1 mana point, and health equal to your level.<br /> #When you are poisoned, you will not gain health from exploring squares. Poison can be cured by drinking a health potion, casting a healing spell, or by gaining a level.<br /> #When you suffer from mana burn, you will not gain mana from exploring squares. Mana burn can be cured by drinking a mana potion, or by gaining a level.<br /> <br /> ===Potions and Powerups===<br /> #3 each of the following items: Health Powerup, Mana Powerup, Attack Powerup, Health Potion and Mana Potion. A Thief will cause 4 of each to be created.<br /> #Potions restore 40% of your Max Health/Mana, rounded down, except for Priest (Health Potion 100% effective) and Blood Mage (Mana Potion 100% effective at the expense of 6 Health per Level).<br /> #Every Health Powerup gives you 1 Max Health per Level. This scales as you level up, so don't hesitate when you see one -- pick it up! Dwarf's Glyph Conversion works in the same way. <br /> #Every Attack Powerup gives you 10% Damage bonus, which can be viewed by hovering your mouse cursor on your character's attack icon, left to your current damage. This, naturally, scales as you level up. Human's Glyph Conversion works in the same way.<br /> #Every Mana Powerup gives you 1 Max Mana. Elf's Glyph Conversion, on the other hand, gives 2 Max Mana per Glyph converted.<br /> <br /> ===Monster Health Regeneration===<br /> #As you explore the dungeon, wounded monsters regenerate health. They heal 1 health point per level per square uncovered.<br /> #No other actions &amp;mdash; including fighting other monsters and moving around parts of the map that you've already explored &amp;mdash; will cause monsters to regenerate.<br /> <br /> ===Gold and Items===<br /> #You gain gold by finding it in piles in the dungeon.<br /> #Gold is persistent from one character to the next. However much gold your last character ended up with is how much your next character will start with.<br /> #There is a cap on how much gold you can have.<br /> #There are stores in the dungeon which sell items for gold. These items disappear when the character is done with the dungeon.<br /> <br /> == Playthrough Videos ==<br /> <br /> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9miGBr17gE4 Commented fresh Gnome Wizard win]<br /> <br /> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNt8vCYmksE A fresh start win video]. This player has nothing unlocked and wins a regular game as a Human Fighter. Unfortunately it doesn't feature any commentary and may be hard to follow for a new player.<br /> <br /> == Basic Hints ==<br /> <br /> #Always fight the highest [[level]] [[monsters|monster]] you can defeat. This requires doing some quick math to determine how the combat will play out before you engage and realize you're in over your head.<br /> #Exploring the dungeon is the main way you will regain health and mana, but it is a limited resource.<br /> #Potions are very useful to immediately gain health and mana, but you may need many of them for the fight with the boss.<br /> #Keep in mind that wounded monsters gradually heal as you explore the dungeon. You can't just smack a monster, run and heal, and repeat.<br /> #Use your level ups for all they are worth, they cure bad status and return you to full HP / MP, so don't be afraid of being poisoned / manaburned by a monster you'll level up after killing<br /> #The first-strike spell is useful for finishing a monster off. It gets no retaliation shot if you kill it.<br /> #The fireball spell is useful for softening monsters up before combat<br /> #Lose gracefully :) sometimes the random number generator creates an impossible situation such as a room with all exits blocked by level 3 and higher monsters and no means of defeating any of them. Retire and try again!<br /> #When you realize you can't possibly beat the boss, make sure to grab the loot before you retire. Gold carries over between games, so you can at least finance the next expedition.<br /> #The second &quot;win&quot; always seems the hardest. Before your first &quot;win&quot;, enemies only have 80% of the normal HP and Attack, and you'll now have unlocked the first special monster, and will likely have trouble adapting to the new enemy's ability (poison, manaburn etc.) Just remember that the game (at the moment) is designed to ease you into the more complex mechanics.</div>

Fall ark http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDungeons/index.php?title=Gods&diff=295 2010-03-19T02:02:27Z

<p>Fall ark: Mystera Annur rewards +1 Max Mana for kills done by Sorcerer's Mana Shield</p> <hr /> <div>Gods work similarly to other roguelike games, each giving themed bonuses and penalties.<br /> No class begins with a religion, and must instead find an altar. Each dungeon has three altars, each assigned to a random unique god.<br /> Stepping on the altar will display a brief flavor text description, and the option to begin worship if you have not selected one yet.<br /> Most gods' bonuses are cumulative from the moment of joining, so it is best to select one as early as possible. Some gods, particularly Dracul and The Pactmaker, inflict early penalties that makes the character unable to continue if they are level one, plan ahead if you want to use one of these from the first level.<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;background-color: #EEEEEE&quot;<br /> !God<br /> !Rewards<br /> !Restrictions<br /> !Renouncement penalty<br /> !Remarks<br /> |-<br /> |'''Taurog, the god of battle'''<br /> |Increases Damage Bonus by 3% per enemy killed, and by a further 20% when all Glyphs in the dungeon have been destroyed.<br /> |Removes Mana Burn immunity and gives an initial Mana Burn when first worshipped. Reduces Damage Bonus by 10% if a Glyph is used.<br /> |Reduces Max HP by 10 and Damage Bonus by 30%.<br /> |Good for physical combat specialists.<br /> |-<br /> |'''The Earthmother'''<br /> |Creates IMAWAL Glyph if it doesn't exist. Grants inherent Death Gaze immunity. Increases Max HP by 1 per enemy petrified.<br /> |Reduces Max HP by 5 when ENDISWAL breaks a wall, and by 10 if IMAWAL is converted.<br /> |Places a wall on every non-occupied square in the level.<br /> |Good for gorgons, but beware of ENDISWAL. Renouncement can be used to the advantage of a transmuter.<br /> |-<br /> |'''Glowing Guardian'''<br /> |Grants Poison Immunity and increased Base Damage by 1 per Undead slain. Death Protection is granted after your first 5 Undead have been killed.<br /> |Life Steal and Poison Attack are removed when first worshipped. Any attempt to buy a Venom Blade or Vampiric Sword or use the APHEELSIK or BLUDTUPOWA glyphs will result in the action failing with no gold/mana refunded, as well as a warning. Vampires attempting to worship the Guardian will be punished immediately. Punishment permenantly renounces the Glowing Guardian and deals 100 Magic Damage to you.<br /> |Poison Immunity, Death Protection and any extra Base Damage from slain Undead is removed. If this is a voluntary renouncement, then you are permitted to return later to worship once more.<br /> |Good when fighting many undead. Great in the Crypt.<br /> |-<br /> |'''Binlor Ironshield'''<br /> |Creates the ENDISWAL glyph if it doesn't already exist, and Death Gaze Immunity is granted. Base Damage goes up by 1 every level you gain while worshipping Binlor, and 1 Gold is gained whenever a wall is broken via ENDISWAL.<br /> |Base Damage is reduced by 2 whenever you petrify an enemy with IMAWAL (Gorgon normal attack doesn't count). All Health Potions carried will be destroyed if ENDISWAL is converted.<br /> |Death Gaze Immunity is removed, and you can no longer regenerate HP by exploring.<br /> |Decent deity to worship for all classes. Provides a lot of gold to transmuters.<br /> |-<br /> |'''Dracul'''<br /> |3% Life Steal is gained whenever a non-Undead monster is killed, up to a maximum of 30% extra Life Steal.<br /> |The HALPMEH Glyph is destroyed when you first worship Dracul. 10 Max HP is also removed when first worshipped by a non-Vampire. Priests, Monks and Paladins are unable to worship Dracul and will have their Max HP reduced by 30 if they try. Max HP is also reduced by 5 whenever you kill an Undead whilst following Dracul.<br /> |Non-Vampires are killed instantly, and Vampires will be unable to use Life Steal.<br /> |Good for vampires and physical combat specialists. Proceed with caution when serving this God. Do not renounce.<br /> |-<br /> |'''Tikki Tooki'''<br /> |Killing an enemy without taking damage return awards an extra 1% Dodge Bonus and removes Poison and Mana Burn. An extra Health Potion is awarded when you first worship Tikki Tooki as well.<br /> |None.<br /> |Causes any Potion you drink to poison you instead with no beneficial effect.<br /> |Good for rogues and assassins. Decent fallback god if no one else on the map appeals due to the instant benefit and lack of restriction.<br /> |-<br /> |'''Jehora Jeheyu, god of destruction'''<br /> |Max HP is increased by 1 for every 100 damage you take, and Base Damage is increased by 1 for every 250 damage you deal.<br /> |Dodge Bonuses and any inherent First Strike are removed when you first worship Jehora, though conditional First Strike is still permitted (attacking lower level enemies and Assassin's Light Foot ability). Any further use of the CYDSTEPP or GETINDARE glyphs will inflict Mana Burn on you.<br /> |Life Steal is reduced by 20%. Negative Life Steal causes you to take damage as well when you attack an enemy.<br /> |Good for units that do not rely on defensive magic for their survival.<br /> |-<br /> |'''Mystera Annur'''<br /> |Mana Burn Immunity is granted, and you gain 1 Max Mana for every enemy killed with the BURNDAYRAZ Glyph or the Sorcerer's Mana Shield, and 1 Max Mana for every level you gain.<br /> |Your total damage for melee attacks will be capped at 1. Does not affect Knockback damage, and Priests will still do 2 damage to Undead without some form of damage resistance.<br /> |Mana Burn Immunity is revoked and you are inflicted with Mana Burn. The melee attack restriction is lifted, but glyphs will break after use. Drinking Mana Potions will also reduce your Max HP by 5 in addition to normal healing.<br /> |Good for wizards and bloodmages.<br /> |-<br /> |'''The Pactmaker'''<br /> |You gain an additional 1 Max HP, Max Mana and Base Damage per level gained, and an extra 1 Experience per enemy killed.<br /> |When you begin worshipping, your Max HP and Base Damage are reduced by 5, and your Max Mana is reduced by 2.<br /> |You are unable to gain any further levels.<br /> |Good for assassins. Decent deity to worship for all classes.<br /> |-<br /> |'''Glitterfinger'''<br /> |An extra 1 Gold is awarded whenever you kill an enemy.<br /> |Current HP is reduced to 1 when you first worship Glitterfinger.<br /> |Current HP is reduced to 1, and all your Gold is forfeited. You are unable to collect any more Gold for the rest of this game.<br /> |Can be useful for Tinkers looking to afford multiple high-level items or intermediary games where you are maxing out your Gold.<br /> |}</div>

Fall ark http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDungeons/index.php?title=Feedback&diff=288 2010-03-18T07:25:03Z

<p>Fall ark: </p> <hr /> <div>About Health and Attack powerups (the kind scattered about the dungeon): Can we get some explanation on these things? After noticing that the attack power up does nothing for a level 1 character, I've been holding off on getting them. Likewise, the health power ups give more health at higher levels.<br /> <br /> What I want to know is, should I hold off on getting them or do they scale to level even after you've gotten them?<br /> --golden_cow2<br /> <br /> :The attack power ups give you a 10% percentage bonus over your base damage per power up, so this extra damage will raise as your base damage does. So get them as soon as your strategy allows you. --Lanis<br /> <br /> :Likewise the health bonus also scales with your level (1 MAX HP per level, the same as Dwarf glyph conversion). No need to hold off. --fall_ark <br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> I've found it really evil that the Escape key closes the entire game instantly. I've already lost at least 2 characters from tapping escape trying to cancel a spell :/ (I'm aware right click cancels, but habits from other games don't die so easily...) --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]] 01:54, 18 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Agreed. I lost 5 or so promising characters because of that. Changing the 'instant close' key to something like F12 and having the ESC key one ask if you want to exit would work better and without functionality loss. --Lanis<br /> <br /> :More keyboard-friendly controls will certainly make the game better! e.g. Arrow keys for moving, 5/6 for potions, SPACE/ENTER/ESC for shop and altar conversations. So on. --fall_ark<br /> <br /> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> I like this game a lot :)</div>

Fall ark http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDungeons/index.php?title=Feedback&diff=287 2010-03-18T07:24:43Z

<p>Fall ark: </p> <hr /> <div>About Health and Attack powerups (the kind scattered about the dungeon): Can we get some explanation on these things? After noticing that the attack power up does nothing for a level 1 character, I've been holding off on getting them. Likewise, the health power ups give more health at higher levels.<br /> <br /> What I want to know is, should I hold off on getting them or do they scale to level even after you've gotten them?<br /> --golden_cow2<br /> <br /> :The attack power ups give you a 10% percentage bonus over your base damage per power up, so this extra damage will raise as your base damage does. So get them as soon as your strategy allows you. --Lanis<br /> <br /> :Likewise the health bonus also scales with your level (1 MAX HP per level, the same as Dwarf glyph conversion). No need to hold off. --fall_ark <br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> I've found it really evil that the Escape key closes the entire game instantly. I've already lost at least 2 characters from tapping escape trying to cancel a spell :/ (I'm aware right click cancels, but habits from other games don't die so easily...) --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]] 01:54, 18 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Agreed. I lost 5 or so promising characters because of that. Changing the 'instant close' key to something like F12 and having the ESC key one ask if you want to exit would work better and without functionality loss. --Lanis<br /> <br /> :More keyboard-friendly controls will certainly make the game better! e.g. Arrow keys for moving, 5/6 for potions, SPACE/ENTER/ESC for shop and altar conversations. So on.<br /> <br /> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> I like this game a lot :)</div>

Fall ark http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDungeons/index.php?title=Feedback&diff=286 2010-03-18T07:18:48Z

<p>Fall ark: </p> <hr /> <div>About Health and Attack powerups (the kind scattered about the dungeon): Can we get some explanation on these things? After noticing that the attack power up does nothing for a level 1 character, I've been holding off on getting them. Likewise, the health power ups give more health at higher levels.<br /> <br /> What I want to know is, should I hold off on getting them or do they scale to level even after you've gotten them?<br /> --golden_cow2<br /> <br /> :The attack power ups give you a 10% percentage bonus over your base damage per power up, so this extra damage will raise as your base damage does. So get them as soon as your strategy allows you. --Lanis<br /> <br /> :Likewise the health bonus also scales with your level. No need to hold off. --fall_ark <br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> I've found it really evil that the Escape key closes the entire game instantly. I've already lost at least 2 characters from tapping escape trying to cancel a spell :/ (I'm aware right click cancels, but habits from other games don't die so easily...) --[[User:Twinge|Twinge]] 01:54, 18 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Agreed. I lost 5 or so promising characters because of that. Changing the 'instant close' key to something like F12 and having the ESC key one ask if you want to exit would work better and without functionality loss. --Lanis<br /> <br /> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> I like this game a lot :)</div>

Fall ark http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDungeons/index.php?title=Brainstorming&diff=257 2010-03-15T14:02:46Z

<p>Fall ark: </p> <hr /> <div>dislekcia: Can we put in a picture of the game and a link to the latest version in the &quot;Welcome&quot; area? I can't see how to edit that...<br /> :Well, I've added the front-page link, but you're going to have to either upload the image or enable external image linking ($wgAllowExternalImages) for me to do the screenshot. - [[User:Chippit|Chippit]] 09:46, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Would it be possible to include a number amount for the damage increase in the tooltip of Bysepps (and in other similar situations)?<br /> <br /> Almost: Some indication or acknowledgement of the thief's first attack bonus or the berserker's bonus damage when attacking higher level monsters when hovering the mouse over them would be nice.<br /> <br /> salejemaster: I'm not sure how to do this but we should somehow change the screenshots that are posted here in the tigdb http://db.tigsource.com/games/desktop-dungeon to screenshots from .5 because the new tile set is much better then the old one, and you know how graphics matter to people, if anyone has any info on how to do this please post :)<br /> <br /> ---------<br /> <br /> DGM: For the wiki itself, a section for the spells should be added. Also, Glitterfingers is missing from the gods section. For the game, here are some ideas for the deity system:<br /> <br /> 1) Dracul rejects Priests. Should the Glowing Guardian accept Assassin followers? It seems out of character, and it's a cheap way to steamroll the Assassin/Crypt challenge.<br /> <br /> 2) Binlor Ironshield gives the wall-buster spell when you convert to him. This should be used for other gods: Mystera Annur should give Fireball since her worshipers are helpless without it, and the Earthmother should give the stoning spell.<br /> <br /> :Earthmother *does* give IMAWAL... providing it doesn't already exist. Binlor is the same way with the ENDISWAL Glyph: if it already exists, he won't create it. And that leads nicely to Mystera: BURNDAYRAZ is guaranteed to appear on every map anyways. All this said, it wouldn't be a bad idea to move the Glyphs to the player's feet when they convert to these gods --[[Special:Contributions/94.7.130.253|94.7.130.253]] 15:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> 3) Speaking of the Earthmother and the stoning spell, she's lame mostly because the spell is lame. It denies you experience and doesn't clear obstacles out of the way; it has no use except to make her happy and her reward isn't good enough. I suggest having the spell only work on monsters below your level, but count as a regular kill (giving experience, triggering rewards/punishments from the gods, etc.). This would make it useful in its own right and make the Earthmother less painful to follow.<br /> <br /> 4) Glitterfingers just helps you get money, right? You can stockpile money easily enough anyway. How about having him spawn some potion shops to spend it on?<br /> <br /> :How about if Glitterfingers removed the cap on gold for that run only? If you had more than the max at the end of your run, then it would be reduced to the max. [[Special:Contributions/68.159.130.228|68.159.130.228]] 16:21, 13 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> 5) Right now there's not much reason to renounce a god except to see what happens. I'd like the option pick a god from the start (like race and class) instead of spawning random alters, so why not use the god's curses as part of another unlock system? If you level up at least, say, 5 times AFTER earning a god's disfavor and still win the game, you get the option to start with him as your deity. As an adjunct to this, let the player brick an alter with the stone spell or shatter it with the wall-buster spell as a way of angering the deity.<br /> <br /> ---------<br /> <br /> rickgriffin: Thoughts about the high score board:<br /> <br /> 1) Include which boss was defeated on the run.<br /> <br /> 2) Besides the top score board, also have separate boards for each class, so people have a reason to have high score runs without just selecting the 'best' class/race.<br /> <br /> <br /> * What about also having top score boards for each of the challenge dungeons, as well? [[User:Neongrey|Neongrey]] 21:04, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ---------<br /> <br /> DGM: Suggestions for the glyph system:<br /> <br /> 1) Certain glyphs - mainly the three teleportation spells - are vastly inferior to most other glyphs. Rather than try to make all spells equally useful, though, I suggest dividing glyphs into two categories: Master glyphs and Apprentice glyphs. Master glyphs would work as glyphs do now. Apprentice glyphs would be weaker and/or more costly and would give no bonus on conversion, but each game some of them would spawn next to the player's starting position. This would balance the glyphs and help eliminate hopeless starts.<br /> <br /> 2) To go with the above idea, here's a suggested new spell: DUNBEESHOKD (Lightning Bolt) - 4 Mana. Deals 2 damage per player level to a monster. This would be an apprentice version of Fireball, suitable for giving to the player from the start in case they want to go the pure magic route.<br /> <br /> 3) Suggestions for specific spells:<br /> <br /> ....BLUDTUPOWA needs work. How about letting it turn a health potion into a mana potion instead? That would make it more generally useful while keeping with the Blood Mage's health-for-power theme.<br /> <br /> ....WEYTWUT teleports you somewhere useless or dangerous too often. How about having it only take you to shops, glyphs and alters? Or at least making it send you somewhere you haven't already explored?<br /> <br /> ....I already discussed fixing IMAWAL when I talked about the Earthmother earlier, but I'll repeat it here for completeness: restrict it to enemies below the player's level, but let it count as a normal kill for reward/penalty purposes.<br /> <br /> ---------<br /> <br /> Almost: If it's possible, generate dungeons from a seed number, and allow the player to replay maps by giving it the seed again or challenge a friend to do better than they did on that map. Maps from any mode could be replayed in such a manner, but completion of these maps would not count for unlocking stuff or highscores. This would also allow players to retry a map that they think they could've done better on and attempt more ideal solutions while learning how to play.<br /> <br /> :Seconding this, and display the seed number during the game. That way we can always recreate the game when someone posts a screenshot and asks questions about it.<br /> <br /> Limiting WEYTWUT to unexplored area would be a definite plus.<br /> <br /> ---------<br /> <br /> DGM: Nandrew, I assume you're reading this since I got the link for this wiki from you. Are you going to share the source, so we can play with ideas you reject? Failing that, would you use the discussion page and comment on which ideas being presented here that you're considering using? I've got more ideas for the glyph system I suggested, but there's no point in talking about it if it will never be implemented.<br /> <br /> ---------<br /> <br /> Jabberwock: One suggestion for the dodge - as it seems it is one of very few random elements after the game starts (maybe beside the Imp teleports), it is a little bit out of place. What if the order of the enemy miss was predetermined instead of random? That is, one of the five enemy hits misses - I receive hit no.1, 2 etc., and the no. 5 always misses... Would certainly make it more strategic.<br /> <br /> ---------<br /> <br /> fall_ark: This might sound a little cheap but... how about adding a &quot;minimum gold&quot; bonus? Or change the saved gold system as a whole. I mean, after unlocking the Goblin race it becomes super easy to gain 50~70 gold in a few minutes, and before that I used to choose rogue to do some rounds of hoarding...It just feels a bit tedious. Or I'm just lazy and spoiled...</div>

Fall ark http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDungeons/index.php?title=Alpha:Strategy&diff=253 2010-03-14T11:51:20Z

<p>Fall ark: Some addition to the steamroll part and the attrition part. Added LEMMISI after slow poison's &quot;exploring&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>===First Strike Finisher===<br /> First strike will often allow you to kill a monster you couldn't otherwise beat. Cast it just before the final blow, and the monster gets no retaliation hit.<br /> <br /> ===Fireball Softener===<br /> Hitting a monster with fireball before combat will often reduce the number of hits it takes to kill it. Can be used with first strike to take on otherwise dangerous foes without taking any damage.<br /> <br /> ===Level-up Steamroll===<br /> With very few experience needed to gain the next level, you can fight a tough monster, and then when you can't fight any more, kill a low-level monster in order to level up. This will restore your health and mana without healing the tough monster. You can then go back to killing the tougher monster with full strength.<br /> It is possible to level up more than once during a single fight. This usually requires the player utilizing the &quot;Experience Catapult&quot; strategy first (see below) so that he has a lot of low-level monsters to kill. Nonetheless, keeping track of how many experience you can get from the available monsters is always a wise thing to do.<br /> <br /> ===Battle of Attrition===<br /> If you have enough attack to do more damage in one hit than your enemy is able to regenerate in the time it takes you to regenerate the damage that he does with a single hit, you can heal between attacks and still be able to have a net effect of his health decreasing.<br /> * Even if you heal slower than the enemy does, sometimes exploring one or a few blocks mid-battle can regenerate your HP/MP for additional hit/spell so that you can deal enough damage to kill the enemy. <br /> <br /> ===Slow Poison===<br /> Casting poison on a single enemy and then alternating between attacking it and exploring (or using the LEMMISI glyph) allows you to take on enemies that would otherwise outlast you in a fight. If attacking with magic you can use this technique to beat a foe that would otherwise kill you with one hit.<br /> * This technique relies on either of two abilities. You can last as long as you can survive a single hit, so if your HP or resistance are as high as possible, you will be able to outlast harder hits.<br /> ====Death of a Dozen Flames====<br /> Once a monster is poisoned, it can be killed by repeated BURNDAYRAZ castings, punctuated by exploring to regain mana.<br /> ====Persistent Martyr====<br /> The CYDSTEPP glyph, used along with poisoning the monster, allows a technique where the hero takes what would be a fatal blow from attacking the monster, but is protected by CYDSTEPP. As such, it does not matter how hard the enemy hits. To repeat the process, the player will have to recover enough mana to re-cast CYDSTEPP between each attack.<br /> <br /> ===Experience Catapult===<br /> Depending upon the hero's class and which glyphs and items are available, there are different ways that a low-level character might be able to take out a quite high level character. When such an opportunity arises, it is beneficial to follow through when your hero is at the lowest possible level. The experience formula greatly rewards going after creatures above your level.<br /> * For example, a level 1 hero killing a level 9 monster gets 81 experience, and will suddenly catapult to level 6.<br /> * A level 2 hero killing the same level 9 monster gets &quot;only&quot; 65 experience, and will wind up at level 5.<br /> <br /> ===Apprentice Sorcerer Mana Pump===<br /> A first-level sorcerer with sufficient health and the BLUDTUPOWA spell is able to generate an infinite loop of transferring health to mana, casting a spell, and thereby gaining enough health to bring him back to where he was. This can be combined with other methods to take down high level monsters.</div>

Fall ark http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDungeons/index.php?title=Alpha:Items&diff=237 2010-03-13T09:46:51Z

<p>Fall ark: Added Dancing sword</p> <hr /> <div>Items can be purchased from stores that are placed randomly in the [[dungeon]]. For every 3 classes that complete the [[Factory Challenge]], an extra shop will appear in future dungeons. For every class that completes the Library Challenge, shops will start selling items from a larger pool.<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;border-collapse: collapse;&quot; class=&quot;sortable&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;background-color: #EEEEEE&quot;<br /> !Name<br /> !Cost&lt;br /&gt;(gold)*<br /> !Effect<br /> |-<br /> |Agnostics Collar<br /> |100<br /> |Allows you to safely renounce your current deity<br /> |-<br /> |Amulet of Yendor<br /> |115<br /> |Grants 50 bonus experience points<br /> |-<br /> |Badge of Courage<br /> |20<br /> |Provides protection from death<br /> |-<br /> |Blue bead<br /> |22<br /> |Offers extra +1 mana after every kill<br /> |-<br /> |Bonebreaker<br /> |30<br /> |Adds a 30% damage bonus to your next attack only.<br /> |-<br /> |Crystal ball<br /> |50<br /> |Regenerates your mana twice as quickly<br /> |-<br /> |Dancing sword<br /> |44<br /> |Grants first strike<br /> |-<br /> |Dwarven gauntlets<br /> |60<br /> |Attack bonus +20%, health bonus +2<br /> |-<br /> |Elven boots<br /> |60<br /> |Dodge bonus +20%, mana bonus +2<br /> |-<br /> |Fire heart<br /> |38<br /> |Restores 10 health whenever an undead creature is destroyed<br /> |-<br /> |Fine sword<br /> |25<br /> |Increases base damage by 5<br /> |-<br /> |Flaming sword<br /> |35<br /> |Attack damage counts as magical damage.<br /> |-<br /> |Focus<br /> |15<br /> |Increases glyph slot count to 4<br /> |-<br /> |Health Potion<br /> |12<br /> |1 health potion<br /> |-<br /> |Keg o' Health<br /> |55<br /> |3 health potions<br /> |-<br /> |Keg o' Mana<br /> |55<br /> |3 mana potions<br /> |-<br /> |Mage Helm<br /> |32<br /> |Grants +10% Magical resistance<br /> |-<br /> |Mage Plate<br /> |35<br /> |Grants +20% Magical resistance<br /> |-<br /> |Mana Potion<br /> |12<br /> |1 mana potion<br /> |-<br /> |Pendant of Health<br /> |25<br /> |Adds 10 to maximum health<br /> |-<br /> |Pendant of Mana<br /> |20<br /> |Adds 2 to maximum mana<br /> |-<br /> |Platemail<br /> |50<br /> |Adds 20% physical resistance<br /> |-<br /> |Scouting Orb<br /> |21<br /> |Increases your sight radius. (Tiles 2 away from you are semivisible)<br /> |-<br /> |Sign of the spirits<br /> |62<br /> |Instantly restores mana to maximum<br /> |-<br /> |Soul orb<br /> |30<br /> |Grants immunity to mana burn<br /> |-<br /> |Stone heart<br /> |31<br /> |Restores 2 health whenever a wall is destroyed<br /> |-<br /> |Stone of seekers<br /> |26<br /> |Reveal the location of all monsters.<br /> |-<br /> |Stone sigil<br /> |45<br /> |Grants immunity to death gaze<br /> |-<br /> |Spoon<br /> |1<br /> |Increases base damage by 1<br /> |-<br /> |Talisman of Rebirth<br /> |52<br /> |Instantly restores health to maximum<br /> |-<br /> |Terror slice<br /> |120<br /> |Adds +100% bonus damage, reduces maximum health to 1<br /> |-<br /> |Tower Shield<br /> |35<br /> |Grants 10% physical resistance<br /> |-<br /> |Troll heart<br /> |10<br /> |Adds 1 extra health every time you gain a level<br /> |-<br /> |Venom Blade<br /> |55<br /> |Regular attacks do poison damage<br /> |-<br /> |Viper Ward<br /> |25<br /> |Grants immunity to poison<br /> |-<br /> |Zombie Dog<br /> |1 <br /> |Provides protection from death<br /> |}<br /> <br /> *Tinkers get a 20% discount on store prices, rounded up.</div>

Fall ark http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDungeons/index.php?title=Alpha:Items&diff=230 2010-03-13T08:31:11Z

<p>Fall ark: Added Crystal ball</p> <hr /> <div>Items can be purchased from stores that are placed randomly in the [[dungeon]]. For every 3 classes that complete the [[Factory Challenge]], an extra shop will appear in future dungeons. For every class that completes the Library Challenge, shops will start selling items from a larger pool.<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;border-collapse: collapse;&quot; class=&quot;sortable&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;background-color: #EEEEEE&quot;<br /> !Name<br /> !Cost&lt;br /&gt;(gold)*<br /> !Effect<br /> |-<br /> |Agnostics Collar<br /> |100<br /> |Allows you to safely renounce your current deity<br /> |-<br /> |Amulet of Yendor<br /> |115<br /> |Grants 50 bonus experience points<br /> |-<br /> |Badge of Courage<br /> |20<br /> |Provides protection from death<br /> |-<br /> |Blue bead<br /> |22<br /> |Offers extra +1 mana after every kill<br /> |-<br /> |Bonebreaker<br /> |30<br /> |Adds a 30% damage bonus to your next attack only.<br /> |-<br /> |Crystal Ball<br /> |50<br /> |Regenerates your mana twice as quickly<br /> |-<br /> |Dwarven gauntlets<br /> |60<br /> |Attack bonus +20%, health bonus +2<br /> |-<br /> |Elven boots<br /> |60<br /> |Dodge bonus +20%, mana bonus +2<br /> |-<br /> |Fire heart<br /> |38<br /> |Restores 10 health whenever an undead creature is destroyed<br /> |-<br /> |Fine sword<br /> |25<br /> |Increases base damage by 5<br /> |-<br /> |Flaming sword<br /> |35<br /> |Attack damage counts as magical damage.<br /> |-<br /> |Focus<br /> |15<br /> |Increases glyph slot count to 4<br /> |-<br /> |Health Potion<br /> |12<br /> |1 health potion<br /> |-<br /> |Keg o' Health<br /> |55<br /> |3 health potions<br /> |-<br /> |Keg o' Mana<br /> |55<br /> |3 mana potions<br /> |-<br /> |Mage Helm<br /> |32<br /> |Grants +10% Magical resistance<br /> |-<br /> |Mage Plate<br /> |35<br /> |Grants +20% Magical resistance<br /> |-<br /> |Mana Potion<br /> |12<br /> |1 mana potion<br /> |-<br /> |Pendant of Health<br /> |25<br /> |Adds 10 to maximum health<br /> |-<br /> |Pendant of Mana<br /> |20<br /> |Adds 2 to maximum mana<br /> |-<br /> |Platemail<br /> |50<br /> |Adds 20% physical resistance<br /> |-<br /> |Scouting Orb<br /> |21<br /> |Increases your sight radius. (Tiles 2 away from you are semivisible)<br /> |-<br /> |Sign of the spirits<br /> |62<br /> |Instantly restores mana to maximum<br /> |-<br /> |Soul orb<br /> |30<br /> |Grants immunity to mana burn<br /> |-<br /> |Stone heart<br /> |31<br /> |Restores 2 health whenever a wall is destroyed<br /> |-<br /> |Stone of seekers<br /> |26<br /> |Reveal the location of all monsters.<br /> |-<br /> |Stone sigil<br /> |45<br /> |Grants immunity to death gaze<br /> |-<br /> |Spoon<br /> |1<br /> |Increases base damage by 1<br /> |-<br /> |Talisman of Rebirth<br /> |52<br /> |Instantly restores health to maximum<br /> |-<br /> |Tower Shield<br /> |35<br /> |Grants 10% physical resistance<br /> |-<br /> |Troll heart<br /> |10<br /> |Adds 1 extra health every time you gain a level<br /> |-<br /> |Venom Blade<br /> |55<br /> |Regular attacks do poison damage<br /> |-<br /> |Viper Ward<br /> |25<br /> |Grants immunity to poison<br /> |-<br /> |Zombie Dog<br /> |1 <br /> |Provides protection from death<br /> |}<br /> <br /> *Tinkers get a 20% discount on store prices, rounded up.</div>

Fall ark http://www.qcfdesign.com/wiki/DesktopDungeons/index.php?title=Alpha:Items&diff=229 2010-03-13T08:02:04Z

<p>Fall ark: Added Elven boots. I can't recall the exact cost though...should be 60 gold</p> <hr /> <div>Items can be purchased from stores that are placed randomly in the [[dungeon]]. For every 3 classes that complete the [[Factory Challenge]], an extra shop will appear in future dungeons. For every class that completes the Library Challenge, shops will start selling items from a larger pool.<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;border-collapse: collapse;&quot; class=&quot;sortable&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;background-color: #EEEEEE&quot;<br /> !Name<br /> !Cost&lt;br /&gt;(gold)*<br /> !Effect<br /> |-<br /> |Agnostics Collar<br /> |100<br /> |Allows you to safely renounce your current deity<br /> |-<br /> |Amulet of Yendor<br /> |115<br /> |Grants 50 bonus experience points<br /> |-<br /> |Badge of Courage<br /> |20<br /> |Provides protection from death<br /> |-<br /> |Blue bead<br /> |22<br /> |Offers extra +1 mana after every kill<br /> |-<br /> |Bonebreaker<br /> |30<br /> |Adds a 30% damage bonus to your next attack only.<br /> |-<br /> |Dwarven gauntlets<br /> |60<br /> |Attack bonus +20%, health bonus +2<br /> |-<br /> |Elven boots<br /> |60<br /> |Dodge bonus +20%, mana bonus +2<br /> |-<br /> |Fire heart<br /> |38<br /> |Restores 10 health whenever an undead creature is destroyed<br /> |-<br /> |Fine sword<br /> |25<br /> |Increases base damage by 5<br /> |-<br /> |Flaming sword<br /> |35<br /> |Attack damage counts as magical damage.<br /> |-<br /> |Focus<br /> |15<br /> |Increases glyph slot count to 4<br /> |-<br /> |Health Potion<br /> |12<br /> |1 health potion<br /> |-<br /> |Keg o' Health<br /> |55<br /> |3 health potions<br /> |-<br /> |Keg o' Mana<br /> |55<br /> |3 mana potions<br /> |-<br /> |Mage Helm<br /> |32<br /> |Grants +10% Magical resistance<br /> |-<br /> |Mage Plate<br /> |35<br /> |Grants +20% Magical resistance<br /> |-<br /> |Mana Potion<br /> |12<br /> |1 mana potion<br /> |-<br /> |Pendant of Health<br /> |25<br /> |Adds 10 to maximum health<br /> |-<br /> |Pendant of Mana<br /> |20<br /> |Adds 2 to maximum mana<br /> |-<br /> |Platemail<br /> |50<br /> |Adds 20% physical resistance<br /> |-<br /> |Scouting Orb<br /> |21<br /> |Increases your sight radius. (Tiles 2 away from you are semivisible)<br /> |-<br /> |Sign of the spirits<br /> |62<br /> |Instantly restores mana to maximum<br /> |-<br /> |Soul orb<br /> |30<br /> |Grants immunity to mana burn<br /> |-<br /> |Stone heart<br /> |31<br /> |Restores 2 health whenever a wall is destroyed<br /> |-<br /> |Stone of seekers<br /> |26<br /> |Reveal the location of all monsters.<br /> |-<br /> |Stone sigil<br /> |45<br /> |Grants immunity to death gaze<br /> |-<br /> |Spoon<br /> |1<br /> |Increases base damage by 1<br /> |-<br /> |Talisman of Rebirth<br /> |52<br /> |Instantly restores health to maximum<br /> |-<br /> |Tower Shield<br /> |35<br /> |Grants 10% physical resistance<br /> |-<br /> |Troll heart<br /> |10<br /> |Adds 1 extra health every time you gain a level<br /> |-<br /> |Venom Blade<br /> |55<br /> |Regular attacks do poison damage<br /> |-<br /> |Viper Ward<br /> |25<br /> |Grants immunity to poison<br /> |-<br /> |Zombie Dog<br /> |1 <br /> |Provides protection from death<br /> |}<br /> <br /> *Tinkers get a 20% discount on store prices, rounded up.</div>

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