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Gods

2010-06-22T06:19:56Z

Hipscumbag:

Gods work similarly to other roguelike games, each giving themed bonuses and penalties.
No class begins with a religion, and must instead find an altar. Each dungeon has three altars, each assigned to a random unique god.
Stepping on the altar will display a brief flavor text description, and the option to begin worship if you have not selected one yet.
Please note that due to the recent changes to how gods work, this page is very much a WIP.

{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" style="border-collapse: collapse;"
|- style="background-color: #EEEEEE"
!God
!Worship
!Piety Rewards
!Piety Penalties
!<0 Piety Penalty
!Options
|-
|'''Binlor Ironshield'''
|Grants 5 additional maximum HP. You receive a certain amount of piety for how much money you pick up during that level( not how much total, but how much you find in the dungeon and decide to pick up).
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*Destroy a wall: +2 Piety
*Level up: +10 Piety
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*Use a rune (other than ENDISWAL): -1 Piety
*Kill a golem: -? Piety
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Reduce resistances by 10%
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*Convert from Earthmother
*Convert from Glowing Guardian
*Boon: Mining. 20 Piety- destroys random chunks of wall
*Boon: Hardiness. 30 Piety- 25% Physical Resistance
*Boon: Heroics. 80 Piety- Advance instantly to level 10. No further piety gain.
|-
|'''Dracul'''
|Reduce max health by 5. Set current health to 1.
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*Kill a non-undead creature: +3 Piety
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*Kill an undead creature: -5 Piety
|Die
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*Boon: Bloodpower. 10 Piety- gain 5 max mana, lose 5 max health
*Boon: Bloodfury. 20 Piety- 20% bonus damage, lose 5 max health
*Boon: Bloodshield. 25 Piety- 20% resistances, lose 5 max health
*Boon: Bloodhunger. 30 Piety- 20% lifesteal, lose 5 max health
*Boon: Bloodswell. 40 Piety- Fully restore health, lose 5 max health
|-
|'''The Earthmother'''
|Creates IMAWAL Glyph if it doesn't exist.
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*Use IMAWAL on a creature: +10 Piety
*Use IMAWAL on a plant: +3 Piety
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*Destroy a wall: -? Piety
*Kill a goat or snake: -3 Piety
*Convert IMAWAL glyph: -? Piety
*Kill a plant: -15 Piety
|
*Prevents natural regeneration.
|
*Convert from Glowing Guardian
*Convert from Binlor Ironshield
*Boon: Greenblood. 15 Piety- Poison Immunity
*Boon: Plantation. 15 Piety- +10 Piety for every onscreen bloodstain
*Boon: Stoneform. 100 Piety- Leveling up grants 5 max HP, 2 base damage, 1 max mana. Only if worship is maintained.
|-
|'''Glowing Guardian'''
|
Fully heals you.
|
*Kill an undead enemy: +1 Piety
*Kill a snake: +1 Piety
*Kill an imp: +1 Piety
*Kill a warlock: +1 Piety
*Use the HALPMEH glyph: +1 Piety
*Level up +3 Piety
|
*Use the BLUDTUPOWA glyph: Glowing Guardian dumps you, lose the ability to use BLUDTUPOWA
*Use a poison attack (Venom blade, maybe APHEELSIK?) -10 Piety, lose poison attack
|
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*Convert from Earthmother: -? Piety
*Convert from Binlor: -? Piety
*Boon: Healing. 50 Piety- The Glowing Guardian will fully restore your health.
*Boon: Protection. 50 Piety- The Glowing Guardian will offer you protection from the next killing strike.
*Boon: Absolution. 100 Piety- The Glowing Guardian will absolve all slain enemies, granting you +1 maximum health per on-screen blood stain.
|-
|'''Jehora Jeheyu, god of destruction'''
|Removes poison immunity, mana burn immunity, death gaze immunity, death protection, dodge, and first strike. Provides from 1-20 Piety randomly.
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*Destroy a wall: +1 Piety
*Deal xx damage: +4 Piety
*Receive xx damage: +4 Piety
*Use the WEYTWUT glyph: +5 Piety
*Use the PISORF glyph: +1 Piety
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*Boon: Chaos.Costs all of your piety. Jehora will either fully restore you health or mana, or kill you.Chances of success correlate directly to the amount of remaining piety(which is always 0).
*Boon: Madness. 25 piety- Jehora increases your base damage by 5.
*Boon: Bolstering. 15 piety- Jehora will destroy 1 health potion, and increases your max health by 15.
*Boon: Retaliation. 30 piety- Jehora will grant you a mana shield, hurting your enemies for the same amount of damage they did onto you.
*Boon: Polymorph. 50 piety- Jehora will randomly polymorph all enemies into something else.
|-
|'''Mysteria Annur'''
|Your base damage is set permanently to 1. You will be given piety points depending on if/how many glyphs you've used before worshiping Mysteria (the number of times you used them counts towards more piety as well).
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*Use a glyph: +1 piety
|
*Destroy a glyph: -10 piety
*Kill an enemy that has a magical attack without using BURNDAYRAZ or a magic shield: -5 Piety
*Kill any other enemy the same way: -1 Piety
|
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*Convert from Tikki Tooki:-60 piety.
*Boon: Magic. 20 piety- Max mana increased by 15
*Boon: Faith. 20 piety- Double piety bonus of spell casting(+1 piety goes to +2)
*Boon: Flames. 50 piety- 25 percent damage increase in BURNDAYRAZ glyph.
*Boon: Weakening. 100 piety- All monster magic resistance goes to 0.
|-
|'''The Pactmaker'''
|
Will give you more piety depending on how much of the dungeon you've discovered.
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*Level up: +20 Piety
|
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*Convert from Mysteria Annur to Pactmaker: ? Piety.
*Boon: Experience. 20 piety- Get 10 bonus experience.
*Boon: Learning. 45 piety- Get extra experience per kill.
*Boon: Mana. 80 piety- Granted 10 more maximum mana.
*Boon: Health. 80 piety- Granted 15 more maximum health.
|-
|'''Taurog, the god of battle'''
|Subtracts 2 maximum mana, inflicts mana burn, and removes any immunity from mana burn
|
*Kill an enemy: +2 Piety
*Kill an enemy that uses magical attack: +5 Piety
*Convert a rune: +5 Piety
|
*Use a rune: -5 Piety
|Health is halved
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*Boon: Fury. 15 Piety- Add 5 damage, lose 2 maximum mana
*Boon: Command. 15 Piety- Add 5 experience, lose 2 maximum mana
*Boon: Mageshield. 25 Piety- Sets magical resistance to 25%, lose 2 maximum mana
*Boon: Penetration. 50 Piety- All monsters physical resistance reduced to 0, lose 2 maximum mana
*Boon: Rage. 90 Piety- Add 50% damage to all attacks, maximum mana reduced to 1
|-
|'''Tikki Tooki'''
|You must pay 10 gold upon first worshiping Tikki.
|
*Avoid damage in combat: +4 Piety
*Dodge an attack that would deal xx% of your health: +5 Piety
|
*Take damage: -1 Piety
|
All enemies gain first strike. All dodge bonuses removed.
|
*Convert from Pactmaker to Tikki: 60 piety.
*Boon: Dodging. 15 Piety- Enhance your dodge chance by 10%
*Boon: Gold. 30 Piety- Gain a bonus of 40 gold
*Boon: Poison. 60 Piety- Melee attacks become Poisonous
*Boon: First Strike. 80 Piety- Gain permanent first strike in battle
|}

Talk:Gods

2010-06-20T07:34:46Z

Hipscumbag:

I just made some major edits to the page, I added the Boons for Jehora and Mystera, what happens when you first worship them(and the Pactmaker and Tikki as well). Too much to count now though, I'm playing the game as I go so I'm pretty sure I got it down for those guys. I'm just finishing up on what I DO know for some other empty columns, so I don't have to retire and start over and over again for stuff that I DON'T know about. Also I figured out that you get more piety for Ironshield based not on how much current gold you have(I had 70 max and only got 5 piety), but how much you picked up during that level.[[User:tcarndt|tcarndt]] June 18 18:25.
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Pretty sure I've gotten extra mana per level from the Pactmaker. Anyone else notice, or am I seeing things?

Almost: Yeah, I think something like that happens. The pactmaker may also give bonuses to health and attack when you level up, but I haven't been paying enough attention to notice.

Also, I think the magic only god does more than what is written, although I can't remember exactly off the top of my head.

In case anyone was curious, if you worship the Pactmaker at <= 5hp, you die.

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Guys, I'm beginning to work on filling out the new piety section. Any help would be greatly appreciated -Lightstriker
Please note for EVERYONE that it will be inaccurate/ incomplete for quite a bit.

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If you have explored 100% of the map when you worship the pactmaker, you start with 40 favor. I'm guessing that it scales, since when I had around 50% I got around 20 favor. Other gods seem to use other systems for granting initial favor. JJ seems to use a random number 1-20 maybe? (it makes a reference to the die being set in motion) Mystera is based off MP spent? Or possibly straight spells cast? spent 70 on 10 casts of endiswal and got 16, spent 70 on 70 casts of bysseps got 16, spent 0 on no casts and got 0.

Ironshield seems to give piety based on gold. Don't call me out on that, but worth checking.

*Glowing Guardian seems to give piety based on damage received. Dracul looks to be based on damage given? Trog I think is based on kills. (or those two might be reversed). I suspect Tikki Tooki is based either on how many items you've picked up or how many items you've purchased. [[User:Neongrey|Neongrey]] 08:20, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

I was just playing a game as a Bloodmage worshipping the Earthmother and I seemed to lose piety for eating a corpse (per the bloodmage ability).

*Tiki Tooki: 50% of money spent, rounded down
**Not 50%, I just bought a Magician's Moonstrike for 120 (and nothing else) and he gave me 21 piety
*Pactmaker: 10% of cells explored, rounded down
*Binlor: 4% of cash on hand (could be off on that, since I'm still at 75 max cash)

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This 10 minute crawler is relatively sure that Binlor gives starting piety based on the amount of gold you've picked up over the course of the current map, and has also figured out that this is not post-active. Binlor, although he gives piety based on collected gold when you begin worshiping him, does not give piety for gold picked up thereafter. He's a lot like the Pactmaker who gives starting piety based on cells explored, in that you're better off exploring 3/4 of the map and planning the entire adventure out beforehand.

Addendum: Converting a rune to gold with the Goblin's racial trait does not seem to please Binlor in this way. Damn.

I've also noticed that penalties don't seem to be retroactive in this way. Converting a Glyph under Mysteria will get you in trouble, however converting all but say the Fireball rune on the map and THEN going into her service does not provide you with negative starting piety and is thus actually recommended for an "Elf Wizard" or similar combination.
* Similarly, Trog rewards piety only for glyphs you destroy in his service and none before. So better for him to save them and convert them once you commit. [[User:Neongrey|Neongrey]] 16:32, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

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I noticed the initial piety boost for pactmaker was edited into the table-- since all gods give piety based on some condition or other, should that all be listed under that column? or should we make a separate column for it? [[User:Neongrey|Neongrey]] 17:41, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

I'd love a new column, but the thing's already pretty wide. Are people going to have problems with the width of the thing with all those columns?

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(10 minute crawler again) You could change the Column title from "Worship" to "On Worship", and then in that allotted cell could describe not just effects that happen on the moment of worship such as loss of HP or Gold, but also the "starting piety" effect conditions and you would not only not need another column, you'd also help fill in the table and compensate for the giant entries in the "Options" column.
Also:

Glowing guardian:
# Kill an undead enemy: +1 Piety
# Kill a snake: +1 Piety
# Kill an imp: +1 Piety
# Kill a warlock: +1 Piety

Just say
# Kill a snake, imp, undead enemy, or warlock: +1 Piety

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Nix this aside, I just had Jehora transform a boss into Firecracker (the second campaign boss.)

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Jehora: Important!
I began a map within arm's reach of a Jehora altar during the first of the elven campaign and, wanting the eventual polymorph, worshiped her. She gave me 25 starting piety, so her piety isn't random 1-20. The only thing I did in the map was pick up some gold out of curiosity, but only 3 pieces and we already know Binlor is the patron saint of loose change. ( http://yfrog.com/j125pp )

Also, Tikki gives +1 piety when you teleport an enemy via the Pisorf rune. ("Such a delightful display of disorientation! +1 piety)

Taurog: Also important!
Your wording for one of his boons is wrong. You do not GAIN 25% magic resistance, you are SET to 25% magic resistance. This means that if you choose the Berserker class or are forced into such as the third map of the elven campaign, you must NEVER purchase this upgrade. A Barbarian begins the game with 50% magic resistance, but this will be overridden by Taurog's "buff" and you will end up with less Magic Resistance than before- and during the course of a challenge map such as the Campaign, this is a very fatal error. Taurog does not GIVE resistance, he SETS resistance. This is even the wording in-game.

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I'm going to assume Jehora penalizes you for using CYDSTEPP or GETINDARE...

Gods

2010-06-20T07:08:17Z

Hipscumbag:

Gods work similarly to other roguelike games, each giving themed bonuses and penalties.
No class begins with a religion, and must instead find an altar. Each dungeon has three altars, each assigned to a random unique god.
Stepping on the altar will display a brief flavor text description, and the option to begin worship if you have not selected one yet.
Please note that due to the recent changes to how gods work, this page is very much a WIP.

{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" style="border-collapse: collapse;"
|- style="background-color: #EEEEEE"
!God
!Worship
!Piety Rewards
!Piety Penalties
!<0 Piety Penalty
!Options
|-
|'''Binlor Ironshield'''
|Grants 5 additional maximum HP. You receive a certain amount of piety for how much money you pick up during that level( not how much total, but how much you find in the dungeon and decide to pick up).
|
*Destroy a wall: +2 Piety
*Level up: +10 Piety
|
*Use a rune: -1 Piety
*Kill a golem: -? Piety
|
Reduce resistances by 10%
|
*Convert from Earthmother
*Convert from Glowing Guardian
*Boon: Mining. 20 Piety- destroys random chunks of wall
*Boon: Hardiness. 30 Piety- 25% Physical Resistance
*Boon: Heroics. 80 Piety- Advance instantly to level 10. No further piety gain.
|-
|'''Dracul'''
|Reduce max health by 5. Set current health to 1
|
*Kill a non-undead creature: +3 Piety
|
*Kill an undead creature: -5 Piety
|Die
|
*Boon: Bloodpower. 10 Piety- gain 5 max mana, lose 5 max health
*Boon: Bloodfury. 20 Piety- 20% bonus damage, lose 5 max health
*Boon: Bloodshield. 25 Piety- 20% resistances, lose 5 max health
*Boon: Bloodhunger. 30 Piety- 20% lifesteal, lose 5 max health
*Boon: Bloodswell. 40 Piety- Fully restore health, lose 5 max health
|-
|'''The Earthmother'''
|Creates IMAWAL Glyph if it doesn't exist.
|
*Use IMAWAL on a creature: +10 Piety
*Use IMAWAL on a plant: +3 Piety
|
*Destroy a wall: -? Piety
*Kill a goat or snake: -3 Piety
*Convert IMAWAL glyph: -? Piety
*Kill a plant: -15 Piety
|
*Prevents natural regeneration.
|
*Convert from Glowing Guardian
*Convert from Binlor Ironshield
*Boon: Greenblood. 15 Piety- Poison Immunity
*Boon: Plantation. 15 Piety- +10 Piety for every onscreen bloodstain
*Boon: Stoneform. 100 Piety- Leveling up grants 5 max HP, 2 base damage, 1 max mana. Only if worship is maintained.
|-
|'''Glowing Guardian'''
|
Fully heals you.
|
*Kill an undead enemy: +1 Piety
*Kill a snake: +1 Piety
*Kill an imp: +1 Piety
*Kill a warlock: +1 Piety
*Use the HALPMEH glyph: +1 Piety
*Level up +3 Piety
|
*Use the BLUDTUPOWA glyph: Glowing Guardian dumps you, lose the ability to use BLUDTUPOWA
|
|
*Convert from Earthmother: -? Piety
*Convert from Binlor: -? Piety
*Boon: Healing. 50 Piety- The Glowing Guardian will fully restore your health.
*Boon: Protection. 50 Piety- The Glowing Guardian will offer you protection from the next killing strike.
*Boon: Absolution. 100 Piety- The Glowing Guardian will absolve all slain enemies, granting you +1 maximum health per on-screen blood stain.
|-
|'''Jehora Jeheyu, god of destruction'''
|Removes poison immunity, mana burn immunity, death gaze immunity, death protection, dodge, and first strike. Provides from 1-20 Piety randomly.
|
*Destroy a wall: +1 Piety
*Deal xx damage: +4 Piety
*Receive xx damage: +4 Piety
*Use the WEYTWUT glyph: +5 Piety
*Use the PISORF glyph: +1 Piety
|
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*Boon: Chaos.Costs all of your piety. Jehora will either fully restore you health or mana, or kill you.Chances of success correlate directly to the amount of remaining piety(which is always 0).
*Boon: Madness. 25 piety- Jehora increases your base damage by 5.
*Boon: Bolstering. 15 piety- Jehora will destroy 1 health potion, and increases your max health by 15.
*Boon: Retaliation. 30 piety- Jehora will grant you a mana shield, hurting your enemies for the same amount of damage they did onto you.
*Boon: Polymorph. 50 piety- Jehora will randomly polymorph all enemies into something else.
|-
|'''Mystera Annur'''
|Your base damage is set permanently to 1. You will be given piety points depending on if/how many glyphs you've used before worshiping Mystera(the number of times you used them counts towards more piety as well).
|
*Use a glyph: +1 piety
|
*Destroy a glyph: -10 piety
*Kill an enemy that has a magical attack without using BURNDAYRAZ or a magic shield: -5 Piety
*Kill any other enemy the same way: -1 Piety
|
|
*Convert from Tikki Tooki:-60 piety.
*Boon: Magic. 20 piety- Max mana increased by 15
*Boon: Faith. 20 piety- Double piety bonus of spell casting(+1 piety goes to +2)
*Boon: Flames. 50 piety- 25 percent damage increase in BURNDAYRAZ glyph.
*Boon: Weakening. 100 piety- All monster magic resistance goes to 0.
|
|-
|'''The Pactmaker'''
|
Will give you more piety depending on how much of the dungeon you've discovered.
|
*Level up: +20 Piety
|
|
|
*Convert from Mystera Annur to Pactmaker: ? Piety.
*Boon: Experience. 20 piety- Get 10 bonus experience.
*Boon: Learning. 45 piety- Get extra experience per kill.
*Boon: Mana. 80 piety- Granted 10 more maximum mana.
*Boon: Health. 80 piety- Granted 15 more maximum health.
|-
|'''Taurog, the god of battle'''
|Subtracts 2 maximum mana, inflicts mana burn, and removes any immunity from mana burn
|
*Kill an enemy: +2 Piety
*Kill an enemy that uses magical attack: +5 Piety
*Convert a rune: +5 Piety
|
*Use a rune: -5 Piety
|Health is halved
|
*Boon: Fury. 15 Piety- Add 5 damage, lose 2 maximum mana
*Boon: Command. 15 Piety- Add 5 experience, lose 2 maximum mana
*Boon: Mageshield. 25 Piety- Sets magical resistance to 25%, lose 2 maximum mana
*Boon: Penetration. 50 Piety- All monsters physical resistance reduced to 0, lose 2 maximum mana
*Boon: Rage. 90 Piety- Add 50% damage to all attacks, maximum mana reduced to 1
|-
|'''Tikki Tooki'''
|You must pay 10 gold upon first worshiping Tikki.
|
*Avoid damage in combat: +4 Piety
*Dodge an attack that would deal xx% of your health: +5 Piety
|
*Take damage: -1 Piety
|
All enemies gain first strike. All dodge bonuses removed.
|
*Convert from Pactmaker to Tikki: 60 piety.
*Boon: Dodging. 15 Piety- Enhance your dodge chance by 10%
*Boon: Gold. 30 Piety- Gain a bonus of 40 gold
*Boon: Poison. 60 Piety- Melee attacks become Poisonous
*Boon: First Strike. 80 Piety- Gain permanent first strike in battle
|}

Talk:Gods

2010-06-18T14:31:21Z

Hipscumbag:

Pretty sure I've gotten extra mana per level from the Pactmaker. Anyone else notice, or am I seeing things?

Almost: Yeah, I think something like that happens. The pactmaker may also give bonuses to health and attack when you level up, but I haven't been paying enough attention to notice.

Also, I think the magic only god does more than what is written, although I can't remember exactly off the top of my head.

In case anyone was curious, if you worship the Pactmaker at <= 5hp, you die.

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Guys, I'm beginning to work on filling out the new piety section. Any help would be greatly appreciated -Lightstriker
Please note for EVERYONE that it will be inaccurate/ incomplete for quite a bit.

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If you have explored 100% of the map when you worship the pactmaker, you start with 40 favor. I'm guessing that it scales, since when I had around 50% I got around 20 favor. Other gods seem to use other systems for granting initial favor. JJ seems to use a random number 1-20 maybe? (it makes a reference to the die being set in motion) Mystera is based off MP spent? Or possibly straight spells cast? spent 70 on 10 casts of endiswal and got 16, spent 70 on 70 casts of bysseps got 16, spent 0 on no casts and got 0.

Ironshield seems to give piety based on gold. Don't call me out on that, but worth checking.

*Glowing Guardian seems to give piety based on damage received. Dracul looks to be based on damage given? Trog I think is based on kills. (or those two might be reversed). I suspect Tikki Tooki is based either on how many items you've picked up or how many items you've purchased. [[User:Neongrey|Neongrey]] 08:20, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

I was just playing a game as a Bloodmage worshipping the Earthmother and I seemed to lose piety for eating a corpse (per the bloodmage ability).