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Johnmyster: /* {{a|DAMNED}} */ Added Faithless Rewind change

2023-05-29T08:33:23Z

‎{{a|DAMNED}}: Added Faithless Rewind change

Johnmyster: /* Conversion Bonus */ Minor fixes

2023-05-29T08:29:31Z

‎Conversion Bonus: Minor fixes

AvovA: Undo revision 56874 by AvovA (talk) Ugh, I cannot reproduce this problem anymore

2019-03-05T00:39:35Z

Undo revision 56874 by AvovA (talk) Ugh, I cannot reproduce this problem anymore

AvovA: /* Shop Items */ added schadenfreude

2019-02-26T14:40:41Z

‎Shop Items: added schadenfreude

Choongmyoung: /* Strategy */

2018-12-28T04:30:49Z

‎Strategy

AvovA: grammar

2018-06-27T14:30:27Z

grammar

Choongmyoung at 19:28, 20 November 2017

2017-11-20T19:28:22Z

Choongmyoung: /* Shop Items */

2017-11-17T19:14:26Z

‎Shop Items

Choongmyoung: /* Glyphs */

2017-11-17T19:12:18Z

‎Glyphs

Choongmyoung at 19:08, 17 November 2017

2017-11-17T19:08:28Z

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 === {{a|DAMNED}} ===
-The Vampire cannot worship a god, he would be too powerful otherwise. Thus it is obvious that he will always win {{badge|Faithless}} badge whenever he wins a dungeon, and you don't need to take effort to this badge for the other classes if you are going to rainbow a dungeon.
+The Vampire cannot worship a god, he would be too powerful otherwise. Thus it is obvious that he will always win {{badge|Faithless}} badge whenever he wins a dungeon, and you don't need to take effort to this badge for the other classes if you are going to rainbow a dungeon. (In Rewind, Vampires can not earn the Faithless badge!)
 The Vampire's healing rate does not improve as he levels up, and he cannot regenerate mana unless he's at full health. While he can explore to recover at the 1st and 2nd level, it quickly becomes impractical to do so beyond this point. You will eventually need to rely primarily on your lifesteal, allowing you to conserve exploration tiles for recovering mana.

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 The Vampire gets +1 {{t|Life steal}} for 120 conversion points. This is the defining ability of the Vampire. He's incredibly vulnerable to {{t|Bloodless}} monsters, so it's important to keep track of which monsters have this trait, and which do not.
-An useful and recommended approach to playing Vampire is to cultivate "blood cows".  To do this, identify high-health/low-damage enemies ({{m|Meat Man}} works best) and avoid killing them.  Once you are a higher level than they are, your lifesteal will vastly exceed their damage output.  Because these monsters have high hit points, your attacks won't actually kill them.  When you next explore, your blood cows will heal and you can repeat the process later.  With enough blood cows, a Vampire can effectively eliminate his regeneration issues. In fact, you might even "regenerate" faster than a normal character would, making you a superb regen fighter. When your blood cows are all at full health, your actual health can be effectively up to few times(!) higher than your health bar and you can health-spike any higher level monster.
+A useful and recommended approach to playing Vampire is to cultivate "blood cows".  To do this, identify high-health/low-damage enemies ({{m|Meat Man}} works best) and avoid killing them.  Once you are a higher level than they are, your lifesteal will vastly exceed their damage output.  Because these monsters have high hit points, your attacks won't actually kill them.  When you next explore, your blood cows will heal and you can repeat the process later.  With enough blood cows, a Vampire can effectively eliminate his regeneration issues. In fact, you might even "regenerate" faster than a normal character would, making you a superb regen fighter. When your blood cows are all at full health, your actual health can be effectively up to few times(!) higher than your health bar and you can health-spike any higher level monster.
-It is important to note that your {{t|Life steal}} is capped by your damage output.  With a sufficient number of CP (and especially with a {{i|Vampiric Blade}} prepared) this can become a serious bottleneck. Because your life steal is doubled versus lower level monsters, it is capped by your damage output anyway. Preparing extra attack boosters or the {{i|Perseverance Badge}} can be very useful to avert this limitation, but be aware that anything which increases your attack reduces the number of enemies you can use for repeated healing. One interesting thing is, if you prepare the [[File:Vicious Token.png|link=Vicious Token]] Vicious token, more monsters can survive your attack so you have more bloodcows to use. This is by far the only case which a character gets an advantage from VT.
+It is important to note that your {{t|Life steal}} is capped by your damage output.  With a sufficient number of CP (and especially with a {{i|Vampiric Blade}} prepared) this can become a serious bottleneck. Because your life steal is doubled versus lower level monsters, it is capped by your damage output anyway. Preparing extra attack boosters or the {{i|Perseverance Badge}} can be very useful to avert this limitation, but be aware that anything which increases your attack reduces the number of enemies you can use for repeated healing. One interesting thing is, if you prepare the [[File:Vicious Token.png|link=Vicious Token]] Vicious token, more monsters can survive your attack so you have more blood cows to use. This is by far the only case which a character gets an advantage from VT.
 You also cannot steal more life than the enemy has; this is especially notable with enemies that have {{t|Death Protection}}, since they will be reduced to 1 hit point between attacks. In cases like these, you should explore to allow your enemy to heal (but not too much!) so you can steal more life when you next hit them.
 === {{a|UNDEAD}} ===

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	Items increasing your hit points reinforces your {{t\|Sanguine}} and ability to tank a huge hit, but their conversion value is sometimes more important. Other than these, items with high CP/cost value are good items to purchase.		Items increasing your hit points reinforces your {{t\|Sanguine}} and ability to tank a huge hit, but their conversion value is sometimes more important. Other than these, items with high CP/cost value are good items to purchase.
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−	~~Schadenfreude does not trigger if the Vampire is exhausted, but mana potions still work.~~

	=== Preperations ===		=== Preperations ===

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	Items increasing your hit points reinforces your {{t\|Sanguine}} and ability to tank a huge hit, but their conversion value is sometimes more important. Other than these, items with high CP/cost value are good items to purchase.		Items increasing your hit points reinforces your {{t\|Sanguine}} and ability to tank a huge hit, but their conversion value is sometimes more important. Other than these, items with high CP/cost value are good items to purchase.
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		+	Schadenfreude does not trigger if the Vampire is exhausted, but mana potions still work.

	=== Preperations ===		=== Preperations ===

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 == Strategy ==
 === Glyphs ===
-The Vampire benefits from first strike and dodge more than than other classes due to his focus on lifesteal, making the {{s|GETINDARE}} glyph incredibly valuable to him.  Remember that if you strike second, the enemy's damage is applied before your lifesteal and can potentially kill you. Where most classes can get one extra hit from first strike, a Vampire can get several extra hits. The Vampire can receive several more attacks from a single dodge while other classes receive just one free hit, making dodge far more powerful than any other class.
+The Vampire benefits from first strike and dodge more than than other classes due to his focus on lifesteal, making the {{s|GETINDARE}} glyph incredibly valuable to him.  Remember that if you strike second, the enemy's damage is applied before your lifesteal and can potentially kill you. Where most classes can get one extra hit from first strike, a Vampire can get several extra hits. The Vampire can receive several more attacks from a single dodge while other classes receive just one free hit, making dodge far more powerful than any other class. However, due to their natual playstyle of attacking bloodcows several times more than the target monster, the dodge will likely to happen versus bloodcows, which become less meaningful.
 If you do not find {{s|GETINDARE}}, {{s|BURNDAYRAZ}} will be your main finishing movement. If you finish your non-{{t|Bloodless}} enemy with slower attack, if the enemy's too low, you cannot steal enough health. You should explore a bit of blackspaces to fully use your life steal ability, but it can be a waste of blackspaces. Finishing the monster with BURNDAYRAZ will not make this problem. Of course, BURNDAYRAZ is the basic solution for all {{t|Physical resist}} monsters also.
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 === Shop Items ===
-The {{i|Platemail}} item is particularly useful to the Vampire if he cannot find the {{s|GETINDARE}}.  Although he will always strike second, the damage reduction has a wonderful synergy with his lifesteal.  A 10th level Vampire with platemail and many layers of lifesteal can effectively cancel out the first 70-90 points of damage, enough to make winning any non-vicious scenario trivial. Be careful that it is very vurnerable to curse, and keep in mind that it gives you {{t|Slow Strike}} debuff so you get two {{t|Cursed}} stack from killing a {{t|Curse Bearer}} popcorn.
+The {{i|Platemail}} item is particularly useful to the Vampire though the item cannot go along with {{s|GETINDARE}}. However, Platemail is actually better than GETINDARE, and converting the glyph gives 100 CP anyway. Although he will always strike second, the damage reduction has a wonderful synergy with his lifesteal.  A 10th level Vampire with platemail and many layers of lifesteal can effectively cancel out the first 70-90 points of damage, enough to make winning any non-vicious scenario trivial. Be careful that it is very vurnerable to curse, and keep in mind that it gives you {{t|Slow Strike}} debuff so you get two {{t|Cursed}} stack from killing a {{t|Curse Bearer}} popcorn.
 {{i|Tower Shield}} or {{i|Elven Boots}} provides extra resistances. {{t|Damage Reduction}} and resistances are better than {{t|Life steal}} because it does not care about your damage output, but these are also disabled by curse.

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 When you have enough {{t|Life steal}}, {{s|HALPMEH}} can be actually better than BURNDAYRAZ by the damage output per mana. The reason is same with that characters with high resistances prefer HALPMEH over BURNDAYRAZ.
-Other non-utility glyphs are not more useful than his conversion bonus, and can be converted on sight.
+Other non-utility glyphs are not more useful than their conversion bonus, and can be converted on sight.
 === Shop Items ===

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 {{i|Vampiric Blade}} is another good item to find in the shop. The effect on reducing incoming damage is only a half compared to {{i|Platemail}}, it's easy to hit the attack power cap, and it's largely meaningless versus lower level monsters. However, it is not disabled by curse.
-Items increasing your hit points reinforces your {{t|Sanguine}} and ability to tank a huge hit, but their conversion value is sometimes more important. Other than these, items with high CP/cost value are good items to purchase.
+If you are using {{s|BURNDAYRAZ}}, {{i|Witchalok Pendant}} can give you a very good chance versus physical attack monsters. You can hit an enemy with fireballs, and attack to ''heal'' while damaging it.
 === Preperations ===

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 == Class Features ==
 === Conversion Bonus ===
-The Vampire gets +1 {{t|Life steal}} for 120 conversion points. The vampire's long list of disadvantages and his utter reliance on his lifesteal class feature, which means you absolutely must convert items early to raise it, despite the high CP cost, makes him one of the most difficult classes to play, only under {{c|Rat Monarch}} and maybe the {{c|Goatperson}} in learning curve.  He's incredibly vulnerable to {{t|Bloodless}} monsters, so it's important to keep track of which monsters have this trait, and which do not.
+The Vampire gets +1 {{t|Life steal}} for 120 conversion points. This is the defining ability of the Vampire. He's incredibly vulnerable to {{t|Bloodless}} monsters, so it's important to keep track of which monsters have this trait, and which do not.
-One useful and recommended approach to playing Vampire is to cultivate "blood cows".  To do this, identify high-health/low-damage enemies ({{m|Meat Man}} works best) and avoid killing them.  Once you are a higher level than they are, your lifesteal will vastly exceed their damage output.  Because these monsters have high hit points, your attacks won't actually kill them.  When you next explore, your blood cows will heal and you can repeat the process later.  With enough blood cows, a vampire can effectively eliminate his regeneration issues. In fact, you might even "regenerate" faster than a normal character would, making you a superb regen fighter. When your blood cows are all at full health, your actual health can be effectively up to few times(!) higher than your health bar and you can health-spike any higher level monster.
+An useful and recommended approach to playing Vampire is to cultivate "blood cows".  To do this, identify high-health/low-damage enemies ({{m|Meat Man}} works best) and avoid killing them.  Once you are a higher level than they are, your lifesteal will vastly exceed their damage output.  Because these monsters have high hit points, your attacks won't actually kill them.  When you next explore, your blood cows will heal and you can repeat the process later.  With enough blood cows, a vampire can effectively eliminate his regeneration issues. In fact, you might even "regenerate" faster than a normal character would, making you a superb regen fighter. When your blood cows are all at full health, your actual health can be effectively up to few times(!) higher than your health bar and you can health-spike any higher level monster.
-It is important to note that your {{t|Life steal}} is capped by your damage output.  With a sufficient number of CP (and especially with a {{i|Vampiric Blade}} prepared) this can become a serious bottleneck. Because your life steal is doubled versus lower level monsters, it is capped by your damage output anyway. Preparing extra attack boosters or the {{i|Perseverance Badge}} can be very useful to avert this limitation, but be aware that anything which increases your attack reduces the number of enemies you can use for repeated healing.
+It is important to note that your {{t|Life steal}} is capped by your damage output.  With a sufficient number of CP (and especially with a {{i|Vampiric Blade}} prepared) this can become a serious bottleneck. Because your life steal is doubled versus lower level monsters, it is capped by your damage output anyway. Preparing extra attack boosters or the {{i|Perseverance Badge}} can be very useful to avert this limitation, but be aware that anything which increases your attack reduces the number of enemies you can use for repeated healing. One interesting thing is, if you prepare the [[File:Vicious Token.png|link=Vicious Token]] Vicious token, more monsters can survive your attack so you have more bloodcows to use. This is by far the only case which a character gets an advantage from VT.
 You also cannot steal more life than the enemy has; this is especially notable with enemies that have {{t|Death Protection}}, since they will be reduced to 1 hit point between attacks. In cases like these, you should explore to allow your enemy to heal (but not too much!) so you can steal more life when you next hit them.