Class Challenges List

[The Avatar]

I say monster classes too! Why not? They need teaching just as much as other classes, if not more.

That Troll is the ultimate candidate for a high resist brawler who's used Binlor to wreck 50% of it's resist, and then JJ for 20 more.

[Fran]

[Darvin]

[The Avatar]

I agree on predetermined deities. It's just like glyphs.

[Darvin]

Actually, that would make for great unlock conditions. Once you have the requisite deities, the silver challenges unlock.

[Fran]

[The Avatar]

Well, we'll just have to wait and see what the devs do. It certainly could work either way.

[Darvin]

Deities are a significant part of the game, and when they're complete there will be a total of thirty-six challenges (forty-eight if the speial/monster classes also get included). I can't imagine that many dungeons just throwing out the deity system completely.

[Lujo]

Having some sort of challenges involving gods (andmastering their abilities) is sort of necessary IMO. It could make a huge shift in the structure of the learning curve. The way it is now, one of the reasons the game is hard (to get into) is that it takes a while to master the gods since they are kept obscure by the story structure. Getting rid of this layer of "fake difficulty", and thereby letting people figure out what they have at their disposal with more ease would cetanly lead to having an easier time figuring otu the most optimal difficulty curve for the actual dungeons.

A good example of this "fake difficulty" phenomenon from my expirience was how the game changed from suspiciously difficult to a complete steamroll the moment I took a couple of test runs to actually figure out how exactly old GG worked. I seriously wasn't aware that a very, very fundamentaly broken feature was at my disposal for months and the instant I became aware of it... well, other vets know what happened...

I wrote about it quite a while ago, the lack of "gods" tutorial of some sort was part of the "why is this game hard to test/balance properly" list along with overbuffed features being taken for granted and the structure of end game challenges being unintuitive and applicable everywhere...

I could elaborate on this if peoplehave doubts or if I was unclear.

[Kevin]

Another reason why having some sort of challenges involving gods is sort of necessary is that it's currently very possible to play the entire game while neglecting a certain god or two. In my playing experience, I've used the older GG a total of one time and the new GG absolutely never. I have Dark Souls left and whatever new class challenges remain, period.

The game forcing players to use and learn all deities through challenges would certainly enhance someone like me's experience w/the game, and I'm certain I'm not alone. It shouldn't be possible, much less desirable, for players to neglect a god for the entire game imo.