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Re: Sidestepper's Newbie-Friendly Annotated Playthroughs

Postby Darvin on Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:06 pm

Sidestepper wrote:
Bloggorus wrote:There are no words to describe this.


The word you are looking for is SMASH


I think he's looking for an adjective, in which case the word is "SMASHING". As in, that was a smashing success in ensuring the devs will be nerfing this next week.
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Re: Sidestepper's Newbie-Friendly Annotated Playthroughs

Postby Sidestepper on Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:16 pm

I hope that they realize that it isn't knockback that is causing the problem.
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Re: Sidestepper's Newbie-Friendly Annotated Playthroughs

Postby Lujo on Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:26 pm

Sidestepper wrote:I hope that they realize that it isn't knockback that is causing the problem.


I think if knockback was the problem, they would've nerfed the half-dragon a long time ago.

I've also been trying my best to catch the damned sword in incriminating poses, but alas, all I keep turning up with are lvl1 namtar kills with a dead plain halfling rogue. No Trisword or GG in sight... Pish, bad luck, I really see no nerf bait there...
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Re: Sidestepper's Newbie-Friendly Annotated Playthroughs

Postby FDru on Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:13 pm

inc scaling Trisword gold costs

Personally, I'd like to see it reworked as a static item again. Alas...
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Re: Sidestepper's Newbie-Friendly Annotated Playthroughs

Postby Sidestepper on Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:50 pm

My preferred solution would be to cap its effect at one potion conversion per level. Two per level if we want to be conservative about changes.

I wouldn't want to see it be path dependent like the Alchemist Scroll. I don't really like the mechanic of "awesome if found at first, otherwise useless."
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Re: Sidestepper's Newbie-Friendly Annotated Playthroughs

Postby Lujo on Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:20 pm

Well, it took a while but I finaly did it! Damned sword woudln't show up, but I couldn't resist killing the fuk**r with just the TT rogue. A bunch of times. Untill the sword showed up. Anyway, here it is:

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And here's the win - quite franky, if I had an agnostic collar or some other way to get piety with TT - I wouldn't need to kill anything but the Namtars.

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I did keep preping Namtars Ward, but it wasn't necessary - Drac + Cydstepp would be enough, or just a perserverance badge. I'd say you can kill pretty much anything with a lvl1 Rogue and enough TT potions (what is enough - that's debatable). If resists were an Issue I'd scum for Binlor. With a Tri-Sword you wouldn't need that many potions, and with an orc, you probably don't need a Tri-Sword. Make that certanly because I killed this guy a bunch of times with a triswordless halfling.

Anyway, awsomer pics in the playthrough notes if anyone's into this kind of thing. At least we can pin this on the sword, and I hope SOMETHING gets nerfed, because I still think NL is too damned hard outside of this kind of stupidity, and I'd be really sad if the moral of the story turns out to be "It's fine, you can beat it with a Rogue easily..."
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Re: Sidestepper's Newbie-Friendly Annotated Playthroughs

Postby Bloggorus on Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:13 am

So what exactly is happening here?

Stacking atk using trisword and other items, then abusing knockback for the percentage of base attack?
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Re: Sidestepper's Newbie-Friendly Annotated Playthroughs

Postby Darvin on Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:54 am

Bloggorus wrote:So what exactly is happening here?

Stacking atk using trisword and other items, then abusing knockback for the percentage of base attack?

Pretty much.
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Re: Sidestepper's Newbie-Friendly Annotated Playthroughs

Postby Lujo on Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:51 am

Bloggorus wrote:So what exactly is happening here?

Stacking atk using trisword and other items, then abusing knockback for the percentage of base attack?


That's what Sidestepper was doing.

Mine is - stack base damage and DP's on the rogue, go TT, pick Dodge up, and then just wheytwut/wonnafyt/picks sparklies/desecrate/tribute up a big bunch of Quicksilver ad Reflex. Knockback optional but wellcome, escpecially since Binlor also gives a fre might if you knock something into a wall. Trisword optional with the right god combo. Desecrating Drac also let's you use CYDSTEP at lvl1. Make sure to either use you DP's befor TT, or to have indulgences handy. No trisword makes Taurog mandatory, but I wouldn't count on any DP's from him.
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Re: Sidestepper's Newbie-Friendly Annotated Playthroughs

Postby The Avatar on Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:14 am

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