dislekcia wrote:Lujo wrote:If it allready works that way, make a note of making it more clear because one of the guys who's spent the most time playing the game wasn't aware of it, hasn't made the connection and has never found a reason to replay a challenge after being done with it (short of litterly forcing myself by making a new profile).
So you didn't know that doing a Silver challenge again re-issued you with the item that it originally unlocked?
I did, but re-doing Rogue, Bloodmage or many other silvers seemed like such a terrible time investment once I've cleared it, it compared so badly to doing anything I haven't already that I couldn't imagine it could be taken as a serious proposition. Same reason I can't unlocker the Fabulous Treasure. I wasn't mad or anything - this happened with every other such instance spontaneously. The connection people naturally make with quite a bunch of that stuff is - I'm glad I'm over with it, I never want to see it again. Especially if it was a learning expirience and it took them a while the first time. The playthrough where bloodmage silver was giving me a hard time was so frustrating, and the time loss of banging my head against the wall instead of doing regular runs eventually had me give up on challenges alltogather*, even accepting that gold challenge veto slots "were not for me" and not even attempting them. Then I went to beat VGT over and over. EDIT: And made videos of it - much better investment of my time, even if took a lot more time.
I went to test it just now, and tried to relocker Soul Orb via the gnome puzzle - since I forgot the solution, 20 minutes later I'm still a Soul Orb short. I can tinker scum a Soul Orb, but nothing in the world can give me my 20 minutes back.
EDIT: * because even a chance of running into something that could take so much time and doesn't simultaneously = (unlock an item + you only have to do it once) made it "not worth it". I didn't even unlock Vampiric Blade that time because of this. Veto slots weren't appealing to me - I only did the minimalist run to prove a point.** Nothing could make me risk running into another bloodmage silver style time sink. Time is very, very precious, what drove people bonkers with this whole topic is you guys apparently stubbornly EDIT: being cavalier about the way DD taxes it, while at the same time it being the most precious thing in the world. The game is already a huge time sink, even for the most rich, and the biggest layabouts.
EDIT:** The point, even back then was: "There are better ways to play than ones which include wasting time scumming for CYDSTEPP" primarily. More accurately: "Any way, even complete cheating, makes more sense than wasting time scumming for CYDTEPP". I unlocked only things I needed to play VGT not to give me more power - I've beaten it many times before - but to save TIME. I begged you to take mana burn off Horatio to save time it takes to scumm up a Soul Orb on every run where I want to prep another item. This is probably the most consistent phenomenon you've seen throughtout the beta - people going out of their way to dodge any artifical time sink and giving up on power and experimentation if it means it will take more of their time then the game already does.