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Suggestion: rotating 'bonus'

Postby arrenfrank on Thu May 16, 2013 6:21 am

RE: the rotating 'bonus' (flame-highlighted dungeon which offers 3X price for the boss trophy).

In my opinion, once a player has reached "103%" completion on a given dungeon, that dungeon should be taken out of the rotation. The 3X incentive should not, in my opinion, encourage the player to return to a dungeon that they've already conquered.
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Re: Suggestion: rotating 'bonus'

Postby dislekcia on Thu May 16, 2013 10:19 am

The PQI (Perpetual Questing Initiative) behaves that way and provides an even larger bonus. The flaming dungeon is more like a random "This dungeon's a little better than others right now!" sort of feeling. I'm assuming that you've hit the PQI already, given that 103% requires the vicious token. Did the existence of the other type of quest not make a difference?
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Re: Suggestion: rotating 'bonus'

Postby Darvin on Thu May 16, 2013 3:35 pm

In practice, the flaming dungeon almost always gives better returns than PQI. The return is somewhat lower, but the amount of time/difficult is significantly lower. Unless the PQI happens to be an easy one, anyone gold farming will always go for the flaming dungeon.
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Re: Suggestion: rotating 'bonus'

Postby The Avatar on Thu May 16, 2013 3:56 pm

Yeah, I've been doing flaming dungeons. If PQI's were 800 or something I'd do them.
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Re: Suggestion: rotating 'bonus'

Postby sitnaltax on Thu May 16, 2013 4:57 pm

At this point I do PQI for a serious challenge (since I am getting only vicious dungeons now), working on vicious completion for a tamer challenge, and flaming dungeon to kill time or to break a string of failures.
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Re: Suggestion: rotating 'bonus'

Postby Lujo on Thu May 16, 2013 7:45 pm

Yeah, I used the flaming dungeons to bounce around during the completion. Tbh, the reason I'm on a break from playing at all right now is because the flaming run is stuck somewhere where I have full completion and don't feel like playing, and I only picked PQI when it was really interesting.

Plus, flaming + bet on boss is always superior and always takes less time and effort. For easier dungeons even flamig + bet on boss + vicious token is more straightforward than your average PQI, gives you more freedom in how you want to tackle somethign unpleasant and as waldo pointed out it's pretty much the only way to reach the final locker/veto slots in a reasonable timeframe.
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Re: Suggestion: rotating 'bonus'

Postby arrenfrank on Sat May 18, 2013 5:39 pm

As usual, the forum vets have hit on most everything that could be said in reply, dislekcia. (Though my play is at a much more pedestrian level.)

Personally, the chief reason I'm not into PQI is the random badge requirement. Again, I'm a mediocre player, and I don't usually enjoy playing for badges (with a few exceptions).

Great work on the interface refinements. The flaming bonus is a thoroughly minor issue, but I still feel it would be a better feature if it didn't include "103%"-complete dungeons.
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Re: Suggestion: rotating 'bonus'

Postby Lujo on Sat May 18, 2013 8:30 pm

arrenfrank wrote:Personally, the chief reason I'm not into PQI is the random badge requirement.


It's the combination of dungeon + race + class that can provide people for enough things to work through, and when you get hit with the badge on top of somethign you're unfamiliar or rusty with it when you just check out the flaming run and it always seems easier.

On the other hand, the badge requirement sets you on the path of completion badge wise.

I think the solution is pretty obvious really. Move the badge to the flaming dungeon et voila.
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Re: Suggestion: rotating 'bonus'

Postby The Avatar on Sun May 19, 2013 4:20 am

Then you might want to raise the value for flaming just a little. Otherwise I'd just do PQI.
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Re: Suggestion: rotating 'bonus'

Postby Lujo on Sun May 19, 2013 10:24 am

The Avatar wrote:Then you might want to raise the value for flaming just a little. Otherwise I'd just do PQI.


Funny thing is what came to my mind was that you'd have to add another badge requirement to the flaming dungeon so theres 2 at the same time.
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