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Vicious Gaan-Talet

Postby ArcticMetal on Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:39 am

I've completed every quest in the game now except for "Prepare to Die" and damn that quest name is accurate.

I first tried Vicious Gaan-Talet with the vamp, prepped dragon's shield and hoped for Meatmen to keep a blood farm going. After about 10 tries the closest I got was the 7th subdungeon.

Then I tried with a Dwarf Rogue with dwarven gauntlets. I did worse with this than I did the vamp - I get to around subdungeon 5 or so before running out of resources. I was mostly hoping to find Dracul early on. I'd prep him but that 25% bloodless seems really steep.

Any tips for this dungeon? I'm guessing high resist + staying power would be the way to go but I'm having a hell of a time with it. (Makes me wish the trisword still gave a flat +2 every potion you chugged! :lol: )
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Re: Vicious Gaan-Talet

Postby TheSchachter on Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:00 am

Hmm... Vampire is pretty reliable, I just had to restart a couple of times until I got a comfortable setup (monsters mainly). You really have to be prepared to use most or all of your potion resources on the Bloodless floor. I strongly recommend bringing Patches if you're not already doing so, as well as the Really Big Sword. Try to get your Lifesteal to at least 8, if you do then the boss is a non-issue.

The Rogue... I played Orc, not sure how dwarf measures up, but I used Glowing Guardian from the start. Glowing Guardian has pretty much everything you need TBH. You can still stack physical resists in other ways :)
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Re: Vicious Gaan-Talet

Postby lolQuaff on Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:00 am

ArcticMetal wrote:
Any tips for this dungeon? I'm guessing high resist + staying power would be the way to go but I'm having a hell of a time with it.


You're on the right track!

Vicious Gaan-Telet is a marathon run, so I think the most important thing is to be very careful about not wasting exploration because you're really going to need it all the way to the end. When exploring the top floor, do your best to move in the middle of the road and stay away from exploring the tiles on the outside walls. The reason for this is because the outer wall doesn't actually have any glyphs, items or shops to find, so it's best to save those tiles for later on and focus on exploring the middle road to find upgrades for your character. Every tile counts, believe me.

You want to head in to the first subdungeon at around level 5. You can get away with level 4 if you're super strong or wait until 6 if you're weaker and want to play it safe. There are 5 enemies in each sub dungeon. When you take your first battle in the subdungeon, you're going to want to use that exploration to locate the 5 enemies before returning to the top floor to find upgrades. Do this during a regen fight or after the fight to replenish your health and mana. The reason for this is, say you just finished a fight and want to heal up with top floor exploration to find upgrades. What happens is when you go back down to find the next enemy to fight, you are already fully healed and are now just wasting those tiles. When you do find all 5 enemies though, you can resume top floor exploration to heal up or regen fight and treat the rest of those tiles in the subdungeon as you would the outerwall tiles on the top floor. It also helps to see all 5 enemies so you can choose the best order to fight them in (save poison/manaburn enemies right before level up, etc)

I suggest trying the Dwarven Rouge again. That was my first victory in VGT and it was the simplest (still very tough!) Prep Taurog as a good piety farm. Try to get his blade early and at least his Armor for the physical resists before you switch out. Glowing Guardian is also good for a Dwarven Rougue. Your first god should be one that brings in a lot of piety for the Pact Maker and Dracul. As soon you find the Pactmaker, get Body Pact. The earlier you find it the better your chances of winning. You really really need the resistances. The enemies you face just keep hitting harder, so the resistances are really going to help. The reason your first god should be a good piety farm is because as awesome as Body Pact is, it eats up a lot of piety. You're going to want to keep earning piety after Body Pact for when you eventually convert to Dracul. Dracul is the best endgame god and almost always necessary in VGT. He sucks as a piety farm though so try wait on converting until you either max out on piety or you run out of resources. If you want to get fancy switch to Tiki Tooki before Dracul for another 10% dodge. This 10% can help a lot.

Prep Dragon Shield. The rouge's damage is already really good and his health will be good enough late game, so instead of the gauntlets I take the Shield because what you really need are resistances.

Try not to waste too much popcorn because you're going to need it as curse fodder. If worshiping Taurog, kill magic attack/undead popcorn first. Magic for the extra piety and undead because you don't want that around as popcorn when you're worshiping Dracul.

Each class has unique challenges in VGT of course, so coming up with a good plan is very important.

VGT runs are always epic, so have fun with it :D It can be tough to get used to and you're going to fail a lot, just try to always figure out what you're doing wrong and how you can improve. Keep trying, it's worth it! Victory in VGT is very, very awesome.

edit: Another thing I like to do is prep a burn salve and fortitude tonic. The golden statue is going to weaken/corrode you and you're going to get weakened again when you fight the illusion. You really need both of those. If you're lucky you will have already found Earthmother so after you kill the statue you can desecrate her altar for 30 piety then use the burn salve.
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Re: Vicious Gaan-Talet

Postby ArcticMetal on Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:23 am

Oh my god, I beat it!!! Thanks so much for the tips.

lolQuaff I followed what you said about Dwarf Rogue/Taurog/Dragon Shield and it worked! I ended up converting into Tiki Tooki first for that extra 10% dodge (and damn did dodging 30% of Horatio's attacks help), and then Dracul when I ran out of blackspace. I actually found Pactmaker in the 8th subdungeon, so I barely got any benefit from the body pact, but it still helped.

I had to use literally every single resource in the dungeon in order to succeed. Every bloodpool, every blackspace, every gold coin. My last purchases for Horatio were a keg of health (for piety/supercharged sanguine) and platemail. Using that I got him down to about 5 hits...and then I ran out of blood pools. That's when I decided to start using swells, even with the curse stack it was better than giving up!

Each blood swell got me one more hit on Horatio. I managed to pull 2 from my piety. At this point I had already desecrated the Earth Mother, so I figured I'd desecrate Binlor, since I was cursed anyways. That got me one more blood swell.

Horatio's down to 2 hits left, and I begin to panic, until I realize I still had the death protection yin sword!! Popped the DP for one more hit, converted my platemail and first striked the bastard for the win! You can see my stats here.
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Re: Vicious Gaan-Talet

Postby lolQuaff on Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:34 am

hahaha epic! Pactmaker on the 8th floor is really unlucky too
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Re: Vicious Gaan-Talet

Postby TheSchachter on Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:49 am

Wooohoo! Good job! First VGT win is always an awesome feeling.
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Re: Vicious Gaan-Talet

Postby The Avatar on Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:53 am

Wow! That's a great story and a great win! Considering your bad luck on god spawns, you had a good run. It's always a great feeling too when you know you managed to just win by pulling out all of the stops. Even better than winning by a ton.
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Re: Vicious Gaan-Talet

Postby JayPlaysIndieGames on Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:11 am

Congrats :)
I hope to get that win eventually. I believe the best I've done is get him to about 1/5 of his starting health.
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